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Episode Transcript for Aunt Cindi's Spinach Salad

when we were kids if Mom said hey I'm making spinach for dinner what would you have done I'm pretty sure I would have made a gross face and stuck my tongue out at her you know like blah oh really I seem to remember you gobbling up some spinach at certain holidays what oh yeah liar

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welcome to Mom's wooden spoon get your apron on and your fanny flicker ready as we cook up some Nostalgia ooh [Music] yummy Well Carrie our wonderful listeners asked and they shall receive ooh Christmas presents oh no too late no too late do you remember last season when we talked about our Aunt Cindi's spinach salad oh I do indeed oh yeah the best salad the best ever Nirvana yep we had a bunch of listeners actually reach out and ask us if we could make that recipe in one of our episodes well thank you listeners that's awesome so nice and so we're going to do it of course we are give the people what they want heck yeah that's how we roll absolutely yeah so this recipe is of course our Aunt Cindi's and I told her that we were talking about it last season on our podcast and she said you know I still make that for every holiday as she should because it's the best it is the best but we also found the recipe in a Mary's Memo yes so did Aunt Cindy cop to stealing it from Mary she did not I didn't ask her oh okay I was like then as far as we all know Mary stole it from Aunt Cindi I am pretty sure she did so this is from January 21st 1974 ooh yes and it's really the easiest and most delicious recipe ever I mean maybe not the most delicious recipe ever okay I I feel like sugar cookies that's true that's true there's a lot of things that involve sugar and butter that I would go with better that's true but I see what you're saying I mean when there are leftovers from a Thanksgiving or Christmas meal I go directly for spinach salad first I want the spinach salad absolutely and everybody thinks I'm weird until they taste it Mary recommends this for Chinese New Year yeah and you know why she recommended it for Chinese New Year I do indeed well do tell Kristen because it has water chestnuts yes and bean sprouts in it yes yes and so I thought Mary that's just odd yeah I'm going to look up water chestnuts are they really Chinese they are totally and completely Chinese one of the only places they grow and China by and large eats way more water chestnuts than anybody else I also read that you are supposed to drain and rinse your water chestnuts before using which is not something that I have ever done I have never rinsed them before so maybe today is the first and let's see I mean we know we've had plenty of this salad in our lifetime are we going to go this is so much more delightful with rinsed water chestnuts um we probably are Carrie we might yeah so this salad has a bunch of spinach what I know right when I was a kid I would get to help Mom make the salad and spinach back then they were big leaves and they were covered in sand and you had to rinse them three four times or you would actually get grit in the spinach yum I know right now I did not buy baby spinach because I looked this recipe up online and they recommend not using baby spinach in it maybe so that the bigger leaves stand up to the heavy bean sprouts and the water chestnuts yeah because as you add stuff to the spinach it gets flatter and flatter I have made this and it lulls you into a false sense of security with the size of your bowl right because you start out and it's chock full of spinach and then you add all your stuff and it's half the bowl that's rightand you're like oh I'm good and then you try and toss that bad boy and chaos ensues it does it does so we're gonna try to be really careful with this so it is spinach with like I said the bean sprouts the water chestnuts on top some crumbled bacon I mean everything is better with bacon it is some hardboiled eggs chopped up hardboiled eggs I adore hard-boiled eggs in my salad I do too if I go to a restaurant and their side salad offers hard-boiled eggs on the top I'm all in I remember spending many a miserable dinner at Ponderosa Steakhouse as a child freezing your booty off freezing my butt off but every meal came with the salad bar yes and that is where I discovered the joy of a hardboiled egg on a salad and the joy of blue cheese salad dressing ooh yes thank you Ponderosa for making me miserable and opening my taste buds to joy an adventure absolutely and then this dressing is kind of like a French dressing but it's homemade it is homemade yes so we're going to pop it in the blender it basically has ketchup vegetable oil some vinegar some Worcestershire sauce and oddly chopped onion in the salad dressing in the salad dressing now I have made this before with a bootleg 70s uh blender and it did not chop up the onion well enough so I got done with the salad dressing and there were still little chunks of onion in it I mean what else do you do you blend it and it did not it did not blend and I did not put in giant pieces of onion so thankfully Kristen has like a super zippy zappy I do a Vitamix we oh you're rich girl know we ain't going for the avocado green blender this time no so there will be no onion chunks in this cuz we're going to liquefy we are liquefying the whole thing so it's a quick and easy recipe yes and you know what's funny I was looking at the cans of bean sprouts on the shelf at the store and I was thinking well what the heck kind of beans are these do you know what kind of beans are sprouted I know that you can get mung bean sprouts that's it they are mung bean sprouts okay so fun fact yes I toured a bean sprout processing plant in Columbus Ohio I do not believe you yeah long story long I did vocational work for teenagers and these people were hiring and I was trying to help this kid learn about different jobs available that he may be able to do they were willing to give us a tour of the plant talk about the various work that they did there yeah all was going well until he reached into a vat of bean sprouts and plucked one out and stuck it in his mouth oh no I was like oh and we're done here um but I got the joy of touring a bean sprout processing plant so I got to see they wash them yeah everything that they do you thought you were going to surprise me and make me look like a fool but oh no jokes on you girl jokes on me because I love making Carrie feel like a fool I pity the fool ooh Somebody went on Mr T I did I did well actually you know the La Choy company was started because of bean sprouts I'm assuming there's more somebody saw a bean sprout and thought hey I need to start a company well yes that is exactly what happened I am not kidding so there was this grocer who kind of wanted to start a company and he had a friend who ended up being a very famous doctor in Korea okay in his later life and he asked his friend hey how would I sprout bean sprouts how do we do this and so they started this small company growing bean sprouts in glass jars and it ended up growing up to be this huge company called La Choy where they would grow their bean sprouts harvest them and then would can them in jars oh my gosh I remember as an elementary school project you would grow bean sprouts you would absolutely in glass jars in glass jars and so I guess it works really well it holds in the warmth and so what's cool is the La Choy company ended up moving to Archbold Ohio yes and that is where the Chief Supermarket that was Mary's home base was in Archbold was in Archbold and are they still there they are still there but they were bought by ConAgra Foods oh okay but the La Choy brands are still made out of that Archbold factory that's pretty cool that is cool so as I was looking up La Choy brand yes I realized that Jim Henson and Frank Oz of the Muppets actually created a character for the La Choy brand to sell their Chow Mein it was the La Choy dragon called Delbert really and he would come in and he would accidentally blow fire and burn things and he would knock stuff down it was like the precursor to Big Bird Frank Oz the Puppeteer was in the costume that's really cool Isn't that cool and it was really funny he had that typical Jim Henson voice that kind of sounded like Rolf the dog so did you find videos of it I did I did I feel like there shall be linkage there will be the linkage it was really cool that's really cute what a great idea so I'm assuming it's kind of before Jim Henson was a huge huge name yes but obviously big enough that they knew that they could get a fine quality puppet it was so then on forward to 1974 in which this recipe came out Jim Henson had a character on Sesame Street that was pulled because children started to imitate this character do you remember Don music he was a composer and he would sit at the piano and he would play like twinkle twinkle Little Star and then he wouldn't figure out how to finish the lyrics dang it and he would beat his head on the piano I do remember he had floppy doppy hair he did have floppy doppy hair and I think he had glasses and children started beating their heads against stuff mimicking him I remember beating the keys of not my head but beating the keys on the piano like him so they took him off the air in 1974 because kids were beating their heads on stuff oh kid are so weird I think that's that's hilarious yep if you guys don't remember that character I know you totally will if you watch Sesame Street I'm gonna put that another linkage you think you'd beat your head on the piano once yeah it would be a very unpleasant life experience and so you would choose to not do that again yeah okay so let's continue I think we need to let me read what the directions say oh it's super tricky it just says it just says add all the different ingredients that we've said mix ingredients together before serving and then add the following salad dressing okay so basically we throw everything in and then we're going to have to start making the salad dressing that is that is correct and make sure that you rinse the water chestnuts I will and they said to drain the bean sprouts so I'm draining those right now so Kristen is bean sprouting the heck out the salad you can watch that spinach just get shorter shrinking down but you know I looked up a little bit about water chestnuts and why they were named that and where they were grown in water they are they're grown in freshwater marshes under the water they kind of look like chestnuts grown under the water before they are cut out of the kind of reddish brown covering and they're kind of like a bulby type of root yes yeah and they do look like a chestnut but they are not the same they are not at all they're not nuts nothing have you ever eaten a roasted chestnut I have not have you yes are they delicious or not so delicious there are many many people yes that believe they are delicious I felt like it was very similar to a boiled peanut oh they're soft they are softer they're not crunchy they are not crunchy really I not a fan of the boiled peanut they are kind of a sweet version of a boiled peanut really they're kinda sweet huh yeah they were better than a boiled peanut in the fact that they weren't super salty uhhuh but they had the texture of a boiled peanut and I did not appreciate it that's so funny yeah so but you know life experience I got to try it that was good but yeah I know they're very very popular they're very popular in Europe for sure that is definitely a place where people adore the roasted chestnut um but kind of sweet and so I think you can do kind of desserty things you know with them oh yes yeah so since this is the new year episode Chinese New Year episode I thought I would look up 1974 the Chinese Zodiac since it's the new year and see what the 1974 was oh how fun it was the year of the wood tiger which I thought what yes wood what is a wood tiger yeah okay so what that is is apparently there's something else in the Chinese Zodiac that is wood and it happened to be predominant that year that the tiger okay and they end up with the wood tiger if you were born in 1974 yes apparently 2023 was not a good year for you oh no but do not fear 2024 is looking good is it really particularly from a job and finance perspective ooh so yeah if you were born in 1974 cha ching that sounds great ooh so then I thought well let me look up Kristen 1970 yes uh you are Year of the Dog yes I am another famous person with the Year of the Dog is JLo no way yes and so your sign is associated with doglike loyalty oh gosh it really said doglike loyalty really you have a readiness to help others and exuberance well I know I guess I do have that mean listen to me on the podcast I can totally hear your exuberance you can you can also hear me clinking and clanking all these tools here you may also be endowed with some lovely dog personality traits oh no I pee on the floor when my owner's not looking or you're honest you love it when people rub you behind the ears what you're kind you're considerate really you're just all round nice person oh well thank you I try to be yeah so is JLo aw how nice to know me yeah I can't wait to hear yours 1973 I am the Year of the Ox oh which stubborn stubborn oh yes that's so true so when we were kids and we'd go to a Chinese restaurant they would always have placemats yes and they would talk about the different zodiac signs and the years and I was always so horrified that I was the year of the ox dogs sounded so nice and ox it sounded awful anyway George Clooney also an ox okay that should make you feel a little bit better patience and honesty are two characteristics that people appreciate in the ox okay now I said stubborn but Carrie is very patient with me so I was patiently waiting for Kristen to stop interrupting me because I'm an ox that's what I do the second part of that sentence Oh No but yeah the ox is very stubborn that is so funny because it's so true goes on to say it's hard to change their mind when they've already decided on something like this is painful because it's true that was really spot on me that was and I I really think that mine was pretty spot on yeah okay okay I am sure you can look up your zodiac sign as well and see if it's as spot on for you yeah as it is for us that was really fun that was painful yeah okay so 1974 you were looking up all the nope nope nope goes in the blender I was totally putting the onion in the blender none of it goes in the salad it doesn't go in the salad Carrie it goes in the blender and then you got to chop up the bacon and if you have any extra pieces as it turns out oxes love bacon do they now it said it on there for sure oh for sure yeah so we're putting the onion in the blender and we're going to put um some sugar the salad oil the ketchup and some vinegar and worschestershire so we're going to do that while I chop the bacon you know how I like to kind of sometimes make oh I don't know Spotify playlists so I didn't make one for this but I was looking at the songs for 1974 and a song came up as one of the number one songs in 74 which was The Night Chicago Died right oh yeah which caused me to start thinking about this song compilation album that was on TV that I could basically sing in order of the songs that were on that album because quite frankly that's all you knew about the songs right right just those little snippets so it went like this Indian Lake is a scene you should make with your little one undercover angel midnight fantasy The Night Chicago Died I know this one then I saw her face now I'm a Believer riding along in your automobile I don't that's all I know oh my gosh that's right I did those backwards oh riding along in your automobile then I saw her face that's right so back to the one with that had the Night Chicago Died yes I went down a freaking fracking rabbit hole and I found it I found the advertisement I didn't know what it was called I I didn't know how to find it at all and it was called folks Summertime Gold oh yes it was you could buy it on a five album set or you could get eight track or cassette tapes heck yeah oh yeah I love it do you ever watch that TV show Drew Carey was the host of it for a while Whose Line Is It Anyway Whose Line Is It Anyway yeah and it has Ryan Styles Wayne Brady Greg Proops Props yeah and they do a comedy sketch on those no yes they sit down and they announce the songs and then Wayne Brady and whomever is singing with him so they come up with hilarious titles and they're like oh I love that 70s ballad Jam Is That Spinach in Your Teeth oh that's hilarious and then Greg

Brady who can also sing oh my gosh yeah so him and the Brady kids yeah they make up a song to a slow 70s ballad that's hilarious it's hilarious and it's based on these Summer Gold right Freedom Rock crank it up remember that one speaking of those tv ads that I had memorized there was one that I think was based out of Toledo Ohio and so any of you in the listening area of Toledo Ohio you may remember this from the 1970s and 80s you might remember this too Carrie are you ready it went like this I am not sure I am hi loves Carlo Sommer here the founder of the crusade of Love For All Mankind our purpose is to move the world to love and you can help accomplish this goal for Love by thinking speaking and acting in friendly ways with family relatives friends associates and all of our neighbors everywhere thank you Carlos Sommer do you remember that I totally remember I had that memorized I had that memorized years ago my friend Christopher came for a visit and I said do you remember Carlo Sommer and he and I both spouted off the entire bloomin' thing oh my gosh you guys watch way too much TV I think so his foundation for Love For All Mankind and I love that he specified all the places you may find mankind all the people and it was like it was very similar relatives and family well cuz sometimes it's hard to be nice to them that's true associates and neighbors and on the screen was was just a picture of good old Carlo Sommer yes and you know it's funny because I always thought it was so cheesy as a kid but if you listen to his words they're really nice it was super nice yeah but it is absolutely cheesy yes yeah remarkably so oh yeah all right so I am putting all this stuff together for our salad dressing right I interrupted you I'm so sorry loves I'm putting this together for our Associates our family our neighbors everywhere everywhere as I'm looking at this recipe Mary has created this memo it's two columns oh yeah and the entire left hand column is dedicated to Mary's thoughts on vitamin E and basically what she's saying is oh [ __ ] wait a minute Carrie let me take a picture got talking Carrie got talking just dumped the ketchup for the the dressing directly on top of the salad please put a beep over my swear word do not take it out because it was well deserved well our dressing is gonna have some chopped up egg and water chestnuts and bacon in it oh my goodness gracious I can believe I did that there's no fixin it there's no fixin it it'll just be a little extra ketchup it'll be good it'll be fine why don't we let Carrie tell the story and I'll work on the salad dressing I think that's for the best Carrie okay so Carrie you have put in some semblance of ketchup is there vinegar in there or is that oil no oil onion and ketchup oil onion ketchup okay I need to add the sugar and I need to add vinegar and Worchestershire sauce okay why don't you tell the story Carrie and I'll take care of this you honestly don't have to wipe things off I recognize that but I'm feeling kind of guilty that's okay okay okay so Mary goes on and on for an entire column yeah about vitamin E yeah yes and ultimately what she says yeah is unless you're a premature infant there's really no proven benefit to vitamin E oh and so while you can take it if you want to what a waste of your time energy and money oh wow okay wow Mary yeah I mean but she said it much nicer and more you know polite than that we're midwesterners we're polite yeah that is true so I thought my Grandma loved vitamin E she really believed in that vitamin E had a lot of good to it and my grandma's a nurse and felt like a really smart lady and so I thought ha ha ha Mary it's been 50 years since your little memo I'm gonna Google vitamin E and I'm gonna show you up and so I did yeah and I thought and I'm not even gonna go to bootleg articles oh no no I'm gonna look at things that the American Medical Association produces and things with really important acronyms yes that I don't remember and so I did and as it turns out in 50 years Mary's still correct no way yeah and this is not to say that you individuals have not found benefit right by and large they cannot prove that it has for huge groups of people medicinal value to heart disease which is one of the things that it it says okay so then I was pretty ticked cuz I'm still stuck on the fact that my grandma she knows things yeah she was smart and so what she would do is she would take vitamin E pills yeah and cut them open and if she had a burn if she had some kind of sore she would put the vitamin E directly on her skin and that was what she would say if you ever have any skin issue a scar anything put vitamin E directly on it now if you go buy a good quality lotion you are pretty much guaranteed it's shea butter and and vitamin E because it has in fact been proven to help with skin issues it's just other stuff you don't need to take it internally for skin issues right because I was going to say when my son was a baby we didn't use Destin on his diaper rash we used A and E no it's A and D I was just sitting back on that one oh crap A and D ointment yes yeah I'm a dummy yeah I'm cutting that part because I don't like to sound dumb on the podcast Carrie's allowed to sound dumb but not me but okay there we go so there I was put in my place thanks Mary thanks Mare all right we're going to pause for a minute while I go blend the salad dressing that probably doesn't have enough ketchup in it but you know oh well but you know what there's plenty already on the salad so it's cool it's all cool it's all cool Carrie [Music] 

well the dressing is not as orange as I remember it I remember it being orange like French dressing or Catalina it's probably because it doesn't have enough ketchup in it oh man I think the onion was kind of big it may have been it said medium onion and that was a medium to me but maybe medium onions were smaller in the 70s yeah I don't know but true to our guesstimate yeah Kristen's blender was a powerhouse of mashing onion and it's liquidy and beautiful it is liquidy and beautiful and way too much dressing oh my gosh I don't think there's any way you could ever use it no from our last season and our 24-hour party salad yes we learned that the 70s was a time of a whole lot of dressing and very little salad that is so true but if you poured this on you would have salad soup oh you totally would it's a lot good news is it's a really yummy dressing and so you can save it and drink drink it later just take a shot of the spinach salad dressing with your dinner you could make it into a spinach salad dressing smoothie ooh delicious I mean a lot of good things add a little spinach it would just be health in a glass a little ice and yum-er take it to your spouse hey honey I made you a smoothie make sure you rinse the uh spinach and the water chestnuts before you throw it in there oh yeah delish and speaking of rinsing spinach you had mentioned that you used to have to do it as a kid yeah I found very detailed instructions on how you should rinse the bagged spinach to make it last longer oh okay so I'm reading these instructions and you had to rinse it and let it sit for 45 minutes in this mixture of more than just water I don't know what and then you had to set it all out on towels drying it completely and then you had to do and I got thinking by the time you're done you could have just opened the bag made the salad and eaten it right it was probably a good four hours worth of work wow to make the spinach last and I thought just don't buy so much spinach I guess not but you know that is what it was like back in the 70s when I helped Mom make the salad you'd rinse it and rinse it and then you would have to lay out all the spinach on paper towels and let them dry of course yeah but not to store it for a longer period of time no no I mean I've had spinach in the fridge it doesn't go bad like all of a sudden no and the beauty of this spinach salad is even though we put the dressing on the entire salad and you could serve it with the dressing on the side yes and I have yes but even though we put all the dressing on it we'll put this in a Tupperware container and it will still be delicious tomorrow yes and I would say then the day after that as well but truth be told I don't think we've ever had it last that long never I always eat it all up but the beauty of spinach is that it does not get soggy no now you do have to scoop onto the bottom of the salad because all the yummy stuff falls no matter what you do you twist and turn you do anything you can yep all the yummy stuff is at the bottom of the salad cause it's heavy it's so heavy it is but it's yeah that's so funny I do the exact same thing we have this at Thanksgiving yep I want nothing but the salad the first thing that goes in my refrigerator I am out of leftovers is the salad oh yeah it goes first before the stuffing which is saying something that is saying something cuz I love me some stuffing and green bean casserole I could eat a dinner of the leftover spinach salad and leftover green bean casserole yes just have that be my meal I I yes delicious I would fight you for that and you better not fight me back cuz I'm an ox she's an ox violent she's kick my butt she used to kick my butt she oh pul-ease she's good at that I would grab her wrist she'd scream mercy I would it was very anticlimactic people I was a wussy all right so before we dig into our delicious delicious salad I want to tell you that I looked up what was considered the most interesting information from 1974 I have some interesting information from 1974 what is it no you go first maybe mine's better and you should save it for last okay and then you guys can vote I'll put a little voting thing on the on the podcast and you guys can vote who is more interesting Kristen yes or Carrie no all right so the first interesting thing that I found well it's interesting it's not funny that my second one is funny oh I have no funny oh okay so my first one was that the first UPC scanner was installed at Marsh's supermarket in Troy Ohio in 1974 okay so was this the first UPC scanner in a grocery store or just in a Marsh's in any anywhere the very first UPC scanner and the very first product to have a barcode was spinach yes how did you no I'm kidding it was water chestnuts no I'm kidding a pack of Wrigley's gum I'll be darned yeah so they installed the scanner but the only thing they could scan was Wrigley's gum apparently so apparently people in Troy Ohio love the Wrigley's we we drive fast Troy Ohio it is just North of Dayton right off I-75 yes indeed on the corner of Door and Secor we'll come out and get you another Toledo Ohio television staple Carlo Sommers so was Carlo's first name Carlo or was it Carlos and it was just all the s's went together so it was Carlos Sommer right well I always thought it was Carlos Sommer right it was not it's Carlo Carlo Sommer all right and it's spelled s o m m e r oh yeah interesting very not really but that's okay okay now it's your turn to say one thing that was interesting from 1974 and folks are gonna vote I didn't just go 1974 people I went January 1974 woah oh yeah indeed January 1974 is the month that the 55 mile per hour speed limit became national law you're kidding me no so then the question begs yeah what was the speed limit before that is what I was going to ask willy nilly was the speed limit kidding me it depended on the state the county the road whoa it was it was a free-for-all wow it could have been 70 it could have been 50 it just it was all over the place it was a 74 gas crisis yes and that was the reason somebody had determined that 55 was going to save people money on their gas oh my gosh I've seen old clips of news from 74 with the cars down the block lining up for gas I mean insanity I cannot imagine we have had moments like so in Georgia there's a a hurricane and it messes up the pipeline that comes to us and so gas becomes a challenge to find and sometimes you pull in the parking lot and the cars are 3 deep but yeah that's nutty so 55 to save gas wow I don't know that it really does it did save lives they think driving slower but the vast majority of people never actually bothered following the speed limit well because I Can't Drive 55 yes but it also created multiple songs yeah yeah ooh I feel like I won I think you probably won I think that I think that barcode one was lame compared to that but okay do you have have one more oh oh can she redeem herself people yeah I think not probably not this is from April 1st of 1974 so not even in January not even the same month as the Mary's Memo mine was way cooler yeah but here it is okay the local residents of Sitka Alaska woke to their nearby dormant volcano Mount Edgecombe billowing out black smoke that would have been scary as heck that would lead one to believe it is not in fact dormant anymore I guess not so they sent a coast guard pilot to fly over the area to investigate and found 70 tires burning and the words April Fools spray painted into the snow oh my gosh apparently this guy named Oliver Bikar or Bikar had lit nearly a hundred tires on fire that's bad for the environment so bad like why is that the first place my mind went I know like forget the volcano heck nobody in 74 cared about the environment we were burning leaded fuel that's true not often because you couldn't get it that's true yeah that's true so wow a hundred tires on fire to freak everybody out to think the volcano was erupting for April that's that's a well planned out April Fool's joke that probably landed in a little jail I would think so into the clink for Mr Bikar all right so here's my January 1974 I'm going to beat your booty okay last one cuz I'm dying to dig into the salad okay January 1974 the debut of a TV show yeah that ran joyously for 11 seasons what Happy Days oh yes yes that wins I don't think so I I've talked about that before in another podcast was it a January 1974 okay fine you know what else premiered what Six Million Dollar Man oh and the doll where you could look through is creepy bionic eye my husband has it really yes but his bionic eye is kind of falling out

gross okay so you guys are gonna have to vote I think it's probably down to the April Fool's joke of the burning tires or the I Can't Drive 55 you're weird all right I'm gonna grab us some bowls and we're gonna dig in oh I cannot wait I think that's very nice that she's going to have us put it in bowls instead of just eat it right out of the huge salad container which is you know totally what I would do we're civilized up in this family well I'm going to dish up some for myself first ooh I think I took all the water chestnuts yep what do you mean I'm going to mix them up for me first you didn't give me any I thought you were going to grab for it but you were grabbing for your phone to take a picture no look at me doing work for our podcast oh my gosh that is so rare that you need to mark this moment on your calendar Carrie helped with the food on the podcast yes I gave you a lot of salad thanks yeah all right are you going first well yeah I think I'm going first alright eat your spinach Popeye all right you're going to hear some crunch I if she gets a water chestnut there will definitely be crunching I do love a good water chestnut to me it's kind of like a crunchy version of tofu it doesn't have much of a flavor but it'll kind of absorb and soak up whatever flavor of the yummy foods you put with it well go ahead Carrie you know what I think it needs what spices more ketchup oh you're a hoot I think it really could use a little more ketchup in the salad dressing but it is so good I know what I'm eating for dinner an entire bowl of spinach salad I love this stuff it's so yummy I think sadly you may be right I honestly think it was the onion that kind of I think it was just too much onion yeah just make sure you use a small onion if you're doing this but it is still absolute Heaven oh it's so good it is a sweet dressing so I will warn that so if you're not a big fan of sweet dressing things do keep in mind it is sweet you might want to cut back on the sugar or something like that because it's sugar and ketchup in it it it it's sweet but to me that's what makes it so yummy I actually saw a recipe online that uses tomato soup instead of the ketchup tomato soap has a bunch of sugar in it too though it does it does it just might be oranger we didn't feel like it came out very orange looking yeah I well I don't know I'm going to just go with onion we're going to blame all of our problems on Kristen's poor onion selection yeah I thought I got a medium but she can't pick onions nope she can't pick fun facts oh that was bad Carrie but we still like her because she's a dog oh my gosh it just keeps getting worse you need to stop Carrie you're digging yourself a hole there but I'm not I'm not concerned that she's gonna get mad because she's loyal and kind it's okay Carrie I love you obedient you snap your fingers she comes running what she gets distracted by squirrels I love kibble wait no oh my gosh crazy well I can highly highly recommend the salad too much onion or not it is absolutely delish yeah it beats 24-hour party salad this was delicious despite the mishap of Kristen's poor onion choice uhhuh that's what it was it's okay Fido I mean Kristen oh well that's it for this episode I'm so glad you joined us aren't you you guys really do mean the world to us be sure to mark your calendar for our next episode which will be released February 12th just in time for Valentine's Day I have made up my mind that you should listen and so it cannot be changed it cannot be changed guys get ready to watch it wiggle and see it jiggle and I'm not talking about Carrie's booty oh no she didn't

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