Praise the Lard!

I got me a big old tub of lard Kristen that is not a very nice thing to say about yourself no I bought a big tub of lard for today's episode why the heck did you do that well because the recipe we're making is the winner of the third annual bake it with lard contest well I cannot wait to find out what it is that we're making well something tells me this might not be one of your favorites oh is it the lard no there's something else that's gonna make you cringe oh boy all right let's see what it is

welcome to Mom's Wooden Spoon get your apron on and your fanny flicker ready as we cook up some nostalgia oh yummy

hi this is Kristen and this is Carrie oh my gosh today we are going to be cooking filled sour cream cookies are the cookies filled with sour cream oh that would be weird wouldn't it it would be gross can you imagine the bite and the goosh that would kind of be like when you get like a Crunchwrap Supreme at Taco Bell and you bite in and you get a sploosh of whatever liquid is in there do you remember from the 80s they were fruit snacks called gushers yeah and you bite into them and then you'd get the little spurt of juice oh those were so good and then they had gum like that too oh yes you remember with all the liquid inside I remember getting a shot at the clinic when I was a kid and they gave me one of those little pieces of gum to eat afterwards as a treat oh wow that's nice it sure beat the clove gum they gave out when I was even younger oh yuck or Blackjack they would give out clove or Blackjack gum as a treat when I got allergy shots what kid thinks clove or Blackjack gum is a treat Blackjack is black licorice flavored oh yuck no no yeah good so anyway our filled sour cream cookies are not filled with sour cream I think they're filled with a raisin mixture okay I told you you were gonna not love this I I see now I see so are we soaking the raisins to kind of plump them up in this raisin mixture we're actually cooking them in a saucepan with some water so yeah they're going to be yeah okay because now you know I oatmeal raisin cookies I don't have any problems right because the raisins are still kind of hard and yes you know chewy yeah yes but I don't need to make my raisin more grape-like oh no I think that's going to happen great but anyway this recipe comes from September 25th 1983 so it's from Mary's Memo and let's get started all right let's do it so what do we get started with are we making the dough first yeah we need to make the dough first because it needs to be refrigerated I think it says for several hours okay so I'm excited because I bake yes um the cooking I would say slightly out of my element but I think slightly is a gross under exaggeration so if you are not a baker the reason we refrigerate the dough is because then when we go to bake it it is less likely to spread so our cookies will maintain the shape that we want them to so it's actually a very important step in a baking process yes because I believe that these cookies it's one layer of cookie okay and then you put the filling inside a dollop a dollop of the filling of a delicious reconstituted raisin filling and then we put another cookie on top and then we take a fork and press it around the edges and make like a little tartlet type cookie oh its going to be like a little meat pie yeah like a little hand pie 

but a little sour cream hand pie yum sour cream and raisins but wait there's more it's not just sour cream and raisins Carrie are there peas in it no it's lard lard yes so this is from the Bake It With Lard contest from the William County Pork Producers and they sponsored this and this was their third annual contest so yum yum yum this was the winner well congratulations to the winner you know I may not be a fan of raisins but I am going to assume that this is pretty good well yes absolutely and you know my husband uses lard in his pie crust I knew that yeah he finds it to be far superior far superior to Crisco or to butter and he does make the best pie crust ever oh my gosh he does a good pie he does he does and so since he uses lard I was not scared of this recipe I thought it would be pretty good lard that you get in the stores is rendered so clean it does not smell like anything I don't smell pork in it right but I believe when you home render it if you don't render it and render it and render it keep going I think it has a slightly porky flavor I can only imagine why would it not right yeah I had a friend that I follow on Instagram that I just saw a post and I just happened to glance through it there's a picture and she's like if you're not rendering your own lard are you really living I was like what a random post but how funny is that the timing this is last week last week that's crazy yeah I think Carrie's gonna mix up the um dry ingredients because I am the dryer of the two oh so true and I'm going to do the kind of the wet ingredients I'm going to start with one scant cup of lard you know we didn't tell everybody what's in this so let me go through this there are a gazillion different ingredients and I just want to let you know that by a gazillion she means like nine that's a gazillion to me when you're making a recipe dang because you have flour baking powder baking soda salt and then the best part lard brown sugar sugar eggs vanilla and sour cream and that's for the dough and then for the filling it's raising raisin's your favorite more sugar a little bit of corn starch to thicken it up salt and vanilla all right and my my little baking brain is going oh baking soda and baking powder oh uh the cookie is going to be a bit puffy oh really to have both because those are both rising agents that's right I was thinking it would be like a flat like pie crust type thing but I don't think it is it won't and that's the whole reason I mentioned it is because I also thought it would be like a meat pie kind of a flat crust no I think it's going to be a puffier cookie to have both rising agents in it probably I just smelled the lard I I I watched you Carrie was talking and I was putting my nose right in the bucket o-lard it was a little disconcerting um you might have noticed a pause and it was me staring at Kristen sniffing the lard because after I told you it had no scent I'm like well maybe it does but it  doesn't I stuck my nose right up on in there she really did she's not joking you had mentioned that this is the third annual lard contest back in the 80s obviously for Williams County county in Ohio near where we grew up they had their Bake It With Lard contest so lard and other foods that are less processed are definitely making resurgence yeah and so during COVID a company Coast Packing what is it called Coast Packing but they sponsored a bake it with lard what yes competition and so they've had I believe two and it happens um so that they tell the winner that they won on National Lard Day what when is National Lard Day December 8th that gives you time to find your own lard-filled recipe look up Coast Packing

and I I believe it's like in November maybe they come out with when you can start submitting recipes presuming that they do it again this year and you too could um make an entry for Bake It With I mean not this one but you could make an entry to Bake It With Lard on hashtag National Lard day how great is that that is so cool all right so I have added in the lard I've added in brown sugar and regular sugar and now I'm gonna pop those eggs in and we have three eggs we're going to end up beating the wet ingredients with a beautiful retro beater it is harvest gold it was our mother's all right so there's a story behind this beater so when my mom moved and we found the Mary's Memo notebook she had a lot of things that she wasn't taking with her when she moved and this beater was one of them well who would have thought that we would start doing Mary's Memos and having these retro items that were our moms would be so special absolutely well what makes it even more special is that she had it all packed up not in the box it originated from but some random box she had and then she put a little a typing paper computer paper yes on the outside hand written on that something to the effect of this box is just the right height if your arm gets tired and you want to lean the mixer on something and you don't want to hold it up anymore and I think it's I think it's a box for like a a cell phone holder that goes in your cup holder so it's not retro no it's a total rando box so I guess but what's so funny is that mom does not do a lot of baking so I can't imagine she had a lot of mixing that she needed to do and it would require a note on a box and a long term mix now wait a minute who was the note for herself yeah note to self put the mixer on the box yes it was a I had a genius idea let me write this down so I don't forget it in the future well that's brilliant because I have to write stuff down all the time or I'll forget it heck yeah oh my goodness well Carrie I was thinking about something that you said in our last episode and I think I politely disagreed with you at that moment but now I have the proof to throw in your face oh I'm so sorry that's so rude you're not even a little bit sorry okay so you mentioned that you thought that Mary always looked like Carol Brady oh I did I remember that and I said that I think that you probably thought that because Carol Brady was the typical you know 70s mom which which I disagreed though I was too polite to mention that oh okay well I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt because I thought that that was just not true I thought that the picture of Mary I don't know if Mary looked like this in real life but her picture on Mary's Memos looks a lot more like Alice than it did Carol Brady I would agree a hundred percent and maybe I really thought she looked like Alice and I just remember Carol right I am I'm not sure well but I agree completely she is I mean I'm looking right at her picture it's Alice it really is so what I did is I got online and I made a side by side for you and we're gonna put the picture on our website so you all can go in and let us know what you think so I put a picture of Alice on one side Mary in the middle and a picture of Carol on the other side so you guys can love it and she very clearly looks like Alice I I won't even disagree with you I believe that that is correct um so I've mixed all the dry ingredients together well I have the wet ingredients and the lard all mixed together here and I think we need to take mom's good old harvest gold beater and beat the heck out of this uh before we move on so yeah because it's kind of lard lumpy yeah if we really need to use a blender for this so we're going to take a pause so you guys don't have to listen to that noise and we'll be right back with some beautifully beaten lard mixture and during this time feel free to imagine the harvest gold mixer sitting on the box Kristen sitting back my hand's behind my head sipping an iced tea while she lets the mixer do all the work yep and you can imagine that or you can get online and start researching lard recipes come on you know you want to enter that contest heck yeah see you in a bit

okay were you able to come up with your own lard recipe for the hashtag Lard Lovers contest I hope you guys did that sounds like so much fun well the first thing that happened guys when we went to beat this lard and sugar mixture is that we could smell the actual beaters they had a scent to them kind of like burning motor smell but it brought us back to our childhood we we remembered that smell every time mom used the beaters it was it was wild really yeah Kristen's like these beaters stink they don't work at all and I'm like but the smell yes and then I tried to keep blending the lard with the sugar and the harvest gold beaters I had them on high and they were running at like a slow speed they sounded kind of like and the smell got stronger and stronger and they thought oh no oh no we're gonna have a fire so I got out my regular beaters and I I beat up this lard so now we are going to add the wet ingredients to my well-measured dry ingredients all right I'm going to pop that in there and as I dump this in and we mix this around I wanted to talk about something Carrie that I found out and I'm a little bit mortified about oh I'm excited it is a mortifying thing about the title of our podcast okay yep so we called our podcast mom's wooden spoon right right fixin' food and flickin' fannies of course oh my gosh that is exactly what our mom's wooden spoon did and it has alliteration and I'm a huge fan of alliteration I love alliteration so we just thought that was hilarious right yeah flickin' flickin' fannies right well then you know I'm a Tik Tok addict I'll say it a time and time again I was listening to Tik Tok and I realized that the word fanny in America of course means your booty right your bum bum but in your bum bum huh your bum bum your tookie we used to call it tuchus your tuchus your tookie but in England and I believe Australia fanny actually means the front part of a woman the hoo hoo oh we do not want to flick that no that would take this podcast in a totally different direction well uh so I'm very uncomfortable with that very uncomfortable so we wanted to clarify if we have any listeners from the UK from Australia from anywhere that uses the term fanny to mean a woman's hoo hoo that's not what we meant we are we are strictly referring to the hind end wow yeah so gosh isn't that crazy you know when I was in college I had a a TA who was from Scotland and he said when he first got here he was you know just getting his life together and he realized that he didn't have a razor so he ran out to the drugstore and he couldn't find him and he was in a hurry so he goes up to the person at the drugstore and he's like hi I'm looking for a rubber do you have a rubber because in Scotland you rub the razor against your face oh my gosh they call it a rubber that makes perfect sense except the cashier which was a young woman and here's this oh no yeah 20 something attractive Scottish guy asking her for a rubber and she's like um yeah did you did you want Trojan and you know she hands up the condoms and so he turns six shades of red she eats six shades of bread oh my gosh he obviously realizes miscommunication and yeah and renames it to a razor but yeah so there there's all kinds of things that yes we're all speaking English but no we're not all speaking the same English absolutely there are different terms different phrases that we use you know my friend Cheryl is from Rhode Island and she actually would call erasers rubbers yep and would call the drinking fountain a bubbler yes yep so there's just there's different things so we really wanted to make a statement to anyone who's listening we are not an inappropriate podcast well we may be inappropriate at times but our our goal is not to be flicking uh hoo hoos no no no it would be the spanking of the child's tuchus it would be smart back to your mom and her saying I'm getting the wooden spoon we never heard that we were such good girls always so I'm mixing this up with this spatula and I really feel compelled to just dig my hands on in here how about a wooden spoon I think a wooden spoon would mix it up real good well I feel like that would be perfect first let me flick your fanny she flicked my fanny the back end just to once again reiterate oh you are so inappropriate so we're going to mix that up and then we'll end up chilling it in a bit but mixing all this lard makes me think of one particular I'm really curious where you're going to go with mixing all this lard well not not a sentence I use very often well no I don't use lard very often either but it instantly made me think of the movie Stand By Me what is it boom

chacka boom chacka boom yes do you remember that oh okay first off Stand By Me classic 80s movie oh my gosh so fabulous so good one of my favorites and before we talk about what what I was going to talk about pertaining to the lard I recently heard a read an article um Will Wheaton was being interviewed and he played Gordo yes and he was being interviewed about why the movie was so darn good oh it was so good it really was and he said that Rob Reiner the director who was also an amazing director yes and that Rob Reiner specifically chose the child actors based on their traits well he just type cast the heck out of it Will Wheaton as a child was really kind of like the forgotten child and you know he had an older brother that was like the shining star and he's just like his character right and then River Phoenix really was a kid who you know knew more than he should yeah at that age you know he had lived on a commune right was you know into drugs at an early age and probably lived lived a life not like many of our childhoods right right and then there was Corey Feldman who Rob Reiner just saw as just an angry angry kid right which was perfect yeah and then Jerry O'Connell just was a jovial fun loving kid so just the perfect type casting to make the perfect movie it was absolutely yeah but okay so if you haven't watched by me recently um as they are you know trekking through the woods I believe it's after the leech scene a really great scene that was great Gordo wants to be a storyteller yes and so he is telling a news story to his friends and it features David Hogan David Hogan but that's not what he was called in this story no so what he was called in the story fully depends on whether you are introduced to Stand By Me from the tv version that was edited for television which would have been us which was 100 us or the movie and so on tv they called him Lardo yes and I was shocked shocked the first time they called him Lard Ass like what they called him Lard Ass those boys were swearing I don't know well it was different from what you heard as a kid yeah I expected it to be Lardo right so in this story poor old Davey Lardo uh Lard Ass is sick and tired of being bullied for his weight yep so he goes to this county fair pie eating contest and before he gets up on stage he chugs a bottle of castor oil and cracks a raw egg into his mouth and swallows it and just starts to get nauseated you know he just is not feeling good and then he gets up there and of course as he walks up on the stage the jerks and the stands go boom bada boom bada right and they're adults oh like oh so gross yeah and even I think maybe it's the mayor who's you know up there the emcee of this contest he even you know accidentally calls him Lard Ass or Lardo and then giggles it's just horrifically mean yes right it's a kid's a kid's perspective a kid's perspective right so they get into this pie eating contest and he's eating the pies and saying next and eating the pies and saying next and getting sicker and sicker and sicker and the way that Gordy is telling the story he's narrating it talking about his stomach roiling oh my gosh it's so great and then you all know what poor Lardo starts he starts a Barf-O-Rama yes he does and when they filmed it they must have had one of those like a tube up next to his mouth and it wasn't just a little bit of vomit it was like projectile coming from a fire hydrant purpley blue blueberry pie vomit everywhere everywhere and so the actor that played David Hogan has uh I think a website and he has pictures that his brother took no and so you see various actors in various states of blueberry pie coverage oh that is awesome because it triggered like this domino effect where then he vomited on one guy and the guy next to him vomited on the next guy and then everybody in the stands vomit a woman opens her purse into her purse barfs into it total Barf-O-Rama

I mean any teen boys dream come true oh yeah yeah they could all start something like that that would be great so I instantly thought of that what a what a great story what a great movie so good very good what a great soundtrack so even as a kid I had the Stand By Me soundtrack I mean I knew every last song by heart yep and my favorite do you have a favorite from the soundtrack I think so okay so mine was Lollipop oh let's sing it oh okay I'm not prepared I have I have lardy crust on my hand I cannot make the pop I'll do the pop because I wanted to sing it because I'm really good at the pop oh okay I can't do the pop anyway so okay

lollipop lollipop oh lolly lolly lolly lollipop oh go you well on that note we are going to put our dough in the fridge we're going to let it chill and we'll be right back because we have to make the reconstituted raisin filling oh boy

the dough is in the fridge chillin nice yup and now we're going to make the raisin filling I think it's going to be delicious Carrie's a little apprehensive if by apprehensive you mean unhappy are you scared Carrie I am a little really that dough looks so good yes it does and now I'm of all things that I really would have preferred to just be a blob of sour cream let's be honest that would be so gross though I think you bite into it warm squishy sour cream comes out eww unpleasant unpleasant all right so Carrie is just about to put the raisins we have the cornstarch sugar vanilla and salt we're going to get the raisins in there and then we're going to get cooking this thing so this recipe was from 1983 and so I wondered if you know Carrie what beautiful piece of it's not quite jewelry but it's along those lines from 1983 that I think we both had I know I had one of them I'll give you a hint you wear it on your wrist was it the year of the Swatch watch yes it was oh I love the Swatch watch well this is so liquidy so I guess let me look at the directions cook over low heat stirring constantly until thick this is going to take a while I think so let's go back to talking about since we have plenty of time let's talk about the Swatch watch did you have one I think I didn't have a real Swatch watch I think I had a fake Swatch watch oh I had a real one of course you did how ironic is this I bought my Swatch watch yes in Bryan Ohio no way which is in Williams County where this recipe came from that was crazy I can't believe you remember that I remember the store really I don't know the name of it but it was on the corner at the square yes I wanted my Swatch watch to be different than anybody else's at school so I I remember it it had a clear turquoise band a turquoise around the outside of the face and then the face was pale turquoise with pink dots all over it cute and then I of course got two of the Swatch watch watch protectors yeah which look like y's and you put them over the band like a little rubber band yeah I got pink and turquoise and twisted those puppers together I could not tell the time on that watch to save my life but you were super cool oh I look so cute mine was generic I'm sure oh um but mine was super cool instead of a second hand it had a clear disc and printed on that disc was a little sailboat and the sailboat would go up and around up and around I remember that really I I wouldn't have had you not mentioned it but I thought it was really cool it was it was super cool hey Carrie get your camera I want you to take a picture of these raisins they are massive

they were regular-sized raisins and now they are gigantor

I'm going to take a picture of the raisins as they appeared in nature prior to our involvement okay like human beings didn't have anything to do with creating them exactly now take a look at how big they are in the pot it's taken forever for this to even get up to heat so I'm putting it up a little higher than just low anyway before we go ahead and just give up and just put this on high and scorch the heck out of it yeah I'm right beside you on that there is also another thing from 1983 that I know you will remember let's see if you remember it from me telling a story okay okay so our dad did the grocery shopping in the 1980s he did yeah and so when he would come home he must have shopped on a certain day of the week because when he would come home from shopping it would be about eight o'clock at night yep and we would watch a particular tv show with him really yes do you have any idea what it was no I'm gonna sing the song

I could sing along with you but I don't know what the song is hold on it's the A-Team oh yes oh I love that show oh that was so cool okay so my daughter and I are huge fans of Vampire Diaries which was filmed nearby in Covington,  Georgia yeah and so for Mother's Day she took me to Covington, Georgia my husband was nice enough to trail along behind us and super excited well it turns out that Dukes of Hazard was also filmed in Covington, Georgia oh I knew it was filmed close by here I just did not know it was in Covington yes checked out Vampire Diaries things checked out Dukes of Hazzard thing yep yep and on the road is the A-Team van you're kidding me no it was the old school tv show A-Team van oh my gosh pulling a trailer of a beat to heck new movie A-Team van you could look inside you could see where they had the roll bars built into the I mean it was built to be crashed wow and so we were inspired and we went home and introduced our daughter to the new A-Team oh yes the one with Bradley Cooper which you know she appreciated and she so now she loves the A-Team I loved the A-Team now who was your do you have a favorite character from the original A-Team was it like Howling Mad Murdoch was it uh Mr. T who actually played B.A. Baracus right which stood for bad attitude Baracus no really oh that's awesome was it Face Man he was so adorable of course it was Face Man and Hannibal and he's the leader he with the cigar yeah he was so cool he was but Face Man all day long really I loved Face Man but Hannibal was my favorite because he would say I love it when a plan comes together and you like a good plan I really am a planner preparation is the key to success I wonder if that was the start to my anal retentive planning thanks Hannibal

so when you mention dad going grocery shopping yes there is a story of dad going grocery shopping that I mean it just tickles me today so my mom would make this list and she would even make the list of the food items based on the aisle yes and the order that he would find them in the grocery store which is so flipping sweet yeah I mean that you know she was so appreciative that he did the grocery shopping that she made it as incredibly easy for him as humanly possible yes so he has this written down grocery store in order of the store and he gets to the item Sure & Natural so to our father that sounded like ice cream which may be because everything sounds like ice cream he thought it was a diet ice cream Sure & Natural so he is standing at the ice cream section looking high and low for this diet ice cream Sure & Natural so a lady is standing next to him and she's like can I help you find something and he's like well yeah I have this list from my wife and she told me that I need to get Sure & Natural and I just cannot find it here anywhere and the lady kind of gets this look of horror and she's like um yeah this is this is not the right the right aisle for this um I think you're going to need a different aisle and she's trying to figure out how to not embarrass herself right and him and get him to the feminine hygiene item it was a brand of pads yes but I don't think they make it anymore Sure & Natural I'm not sure but anyway it was a brand of pads and he was trying to find it in the ice cream section that is a hoot oh my gosh I do remember that story hey Carrie did you add the cornstarch because I did you did this is just pure liquid with raisins in it still you want to add a little more um I don't know should we just boil it down is it just supposed to be sticky raisin mush I think we're just going to have to boil it just cook and cook and cook so you know here's what we're going to do you guys do not need to sit here and uh listen to us wax poetic on feminine hygiene products so we're gonna take you away from this torture of waiting and waiting and waiting for these raisins to cook down which are getting bigger and bigger look at them they're the size of almonds I mean I'm not kidding you but we're gonna have like a cookie with a single raisin one raisin in the middle and they're huge they are expanding I've never seen raisins do this before like I'm wondering do we need to like chop it I'm wondering if they it would be better if they were like a little yummy paste almost like uh like what nowadays is a mince meat with the chopped up raisins and nuts maybe it's going to take so long to cook down they'll turn it into a mush yeah maybe it'll be interesting who knows we'll let you know though as soon as we get it cooked yep which may or may not be four hours we'll see ya

okay so we have thickened our raisin sauce I think it might be a little too thick it does kind of have the pre-taffy look it does look like taffy like almost like black taffy yep all right so we have our filling nice and thick um we have our dough out of the fridge we've been letting it rest uh warm up just a little bit closer to room temperature so that we can roll it out so Carries gonna get to rolling that sucker and I wanted to tell you all what I found out about lard talking about the history of how lard was created boring but I did find something really gross and fun I've read that in the 1700s and even in the 1800s in Europe and in America they used lard to make their wigs stand up big and tall you know I think I knew this did you really yeah I went to uh Williamsburg, Virginia oh yes and they have a wig maker there they'll talk with you and give you some ins and outs and some of the skinny of wig making and um I think that I recall them saying that lard yes they used it as like a pomade and they would put it in their hair along with powder and you know when I think of powder I think of talcum powder right but no no no they would use flour or cornstarch or even powdered clay wow yeah so if you were putting lard and flour or cornstarch in your wig and then you were putting your wig on your bedside stand you might have some little rodent critter friends come visit you in the night of course yes and so even in the 1700s like the Georgian era and their their hair was just so big I think you see like pictures of Marie Antoinette wearing like a model ship in her hair right some of those were the women's real hair that you know had horse hair stuffed in it and it was all made to stick up with this lard this took forever to make their hair look like that so they would go to sleep carefully with it and wear it for weeks and when they took their hair down to to actually wash it there were rodents living in it sometimes holy moly and you have to figure that you know fleas oh yes lice lice were all very commonplace so nasty oh my gosh okay so I've rolled this out I'll be honest probably thicker than we should um but you know what they're a cookie so yeah let's not be afraid of thick that's right and then we're gonna go ahead and cut circles and then what we need to do is we need to put a spoonful of the raisin mixture on the bottom cookie put a cookie on the top of that and then crimp them with the fork and you know we could not find round cookie cutters so I had a friend recommend using the lid of a ball jar it worked out perfectly so thank you Beth for that wonderful suggestion perfect so we have them cut out we have uh the cookies with the filling and the topping and the crimping all right well these are looking really good I think we're going to end up with about 30 cookies perfect so I think that's going to be great um all right so I guess we're gonna go ahead and get the cookies in the oven and uh we'll let you know what they look like in the meantime the filling smells amazing oh my gosh the house smells like vanilla just sweet and delicious you know I'm not a rehydrated raisin fan but I'm really kind of ready to bite in one of these I can't wait to try these the cookies are out of the oven and they are beautiful they really are the house smells fantastic oh yeah the cookies look appetizing and so what we did is we cooked the first batch a little bit longer we wanted it to look a little more golden brown yes and then the second one we didn't cook as long and we actually followed the directions we cooked to the second batch as long as the directions said 10 minutes yes and the top looks a little wrinkly but maybe that's what it's supposed to look like right so we're thinking that one may be a little crunchier than the other which you know kind of maybe like chocolate chip cookies which do you prefer the crunchy or the chewy it's kind of up to you so let's try them yeah we're going to cut into them so that we can each take a half Kristen's cutting the crunchy one first okay the filling looks nice it does I'm then I'm going to cut this softer one I think the softer one might be nicer but let's give it a try okay which one do you want to try first let's do crunchy first then you can take the first bite of lovely lovely rehydrated raisins and we'll see if I made the uh the innards too thick or if I made the cookies too thick that is true we'll see all right so it looks pretty good we'll see if there's a good filling to dough ratio how is it it's good it's a little sweet it is not overwhelmingly raisiny the cookie itself is outstanding like I don't even know that you need the raisin filling quite frankly the crunchy one is delicious but you're right the filling called for I think three quarters cup of sugar to be added to raisins it's sweet it's very sweet oh now the softer one is beautiful I kind of pulled it apart it was like a little caramelly stringy bit from the raisins yep from the innards the innards are um I don't know if they're juicier maybe a little juicier on the soft one oh it sounds like the soft one is Kristen's favorite they're both delicious but to be honest I think they're a little too sweet for me I would have to agree I don't dislike the soft ones I I think I like the crispy a little bit better yeah it has the nice texture compared to the raisins I think these are are a go I would make these again well that's it for this episode if you would like to see pictures of the food we cooked today a copy of the original Mary's Memo recipe and a link to the Lard Ass Hogan scene from Stand By Me head on over to momswoodenspoon.com on our website you can also leave us a voice message or send us an email if you enjoyed today's podcast please let your friends and family know about us don't forget or we may have to get out the wooden spoon

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