The Lemon Debacle of 1963

Episode Transcript Herb-Glazed Sandwiches

it wouldn't be a season of Mom's Wooden Spoon if we didn't use this particular ingredient I agree because sometimes it's really tasty you're right but sometimes it really isn't oh it's bad I wonder what today's recipe is going to be like bad [Music]  welcome to Mom's Wooden Spoon get your apron on and your fanny flicker ready as we cook up some nostalgia ooh [Music] yummy to celebrate National Jello week which starts today happy National Jello week Kristen why thank you Carrie we are going to be reveling in the recipes that we can make out of the joys of jello cookbook I mean I am ready for revelry me too and this is actually the book where we found that Jello kid stuff flyer that had the peanut butter parfait recipe in it which we do not recommend you make we do not that was not good too sweet oh it was yes yeah way too sweet however this Joys of Jell-O cookbook was published 13 years before that Nifty flyer in oh so these are like old school jello recipes old school from 1963 so we're going to go way back in time for this one okay that's older than you and me I know right so this is one heck of a weird recipe yeah this is a Carrie doesn't even have the words for it I have I have never seen the likes of this it is called herb glazed sandwiches well I mean and that just sounds perfectly fine right who wouldn't want an herb glazed sandwich that sounds delicious I'd like an herb glazed turkey yeah yeah and and the idea of the recipe was to keep your finger sandwiches fresh you could make them in the morning add your herb glaze have your friends over for a nice luncheon is the bread stale no no it's under an herb glaze yes yes but it's an herb glaze made with lemon Jell-O that has been cooked with peppercorns a bay leaf a little dried dill and a pinch o cayenne pepper yum and then if I uh recall correctly then the recipe gives us some delicious options we could do any kind of sandwich we want oh yeah and these are all open face sandwiches so then you pour the glaze on the Open Face Sandwich keeps everything fresh protected from the environment right we don't want to sog up the top piece of bread no way and so you know some of the recipe choices for the sandwiches were hmmm sketchy oh no I mean they're fantastic oh yeah like they suggest just basically taking whole wheat bread and putting sliced hardboiled egg and cooked shrimp on the top just plain yum-er oh man let's see what are some of the other weird ones that were kind of scary to me wasn't there like a corned beef one there wasn't oh it was liver pate sprinkled with again hardboiled egg chopped hardboiled that's clearly for the Upper Crust I mean the Pate well you could just use braunschweiger I mean if you are not Upper Crust that's right just a slice of braunschweiger that's right you know though quite frankly I can see that happening yeah although honestly that sounds better than the other options braunschweiger a slice it's kind of creamy it's not real dry on a slice of bread with some herb glaze over it that doesn't seem horrible I don't know the shrimp one but what really did me in there was one that I was like oh was it the one that had mustard swiss cheese sauerkraut and corned beef that's it that is the one so it's like a Reuben let's make a Reuben but instead of a Russian or thousand island dressing let's put  Jello-O on the top of it and Herb glaze it doesn't seem like that would go with those flavors at all the tart lemon with the tart sauerkraut oohey so we tried to go what we thought would be the least offensive sandwich which is basically just roast beef with a slice of tomato on the top and a little horseradish that's right and you butter the bread first yep and instead of doing a big old slice of bread I just got a baguette and we're going to slice little pieces of baguettes so it is like a two bite sandwich so we don't gag too much one bite for Kristen one bite for Carrie that's right and again we'll do rock paper scissors to see who has to bite first I mean I kind of feel like we could probably get away with making a sandwich we could it's going to be a waste to make more I cannot imagine that we are going to eat that and go back for more no and I think I mean this makes a ton of glaze it's saying it it makes like one and 3/4 cups of glaze and you're supposed to put two tablespoons of glaze on a small sandwich oh no we're just going to see how this goes right well I mean we're going to do it and we're going to try it you know I'm not coming in with high expectations no I am not either so if this ends up being delicious it's going to rock my world oh it will I mean yeah color me purple and call me happy I don't think that's a phrase color me purple and call me happy is that what you said what the heck is that I couldn't think of any color to say and you've got a purple cloth right next to you color me purple and call me happy I don't think that's a saying to date we've created something new we're going to go viral and finally get more than 90 listeners on our podcast I mean everybody everybody everywhere you go you're going to be walking through the grocery store and you're going to hear someone two aisles away go oh my gosh this horseradish is on sale will color me purple call me

happy oh gosh my cheeks hurt from laughing if you have a teenager I feel like that is a statement you need to use to them cuz  just saying good morning to them gets them to roll their eyes at you oh yeah wait till they hear that gem wait till you say that oh good grief well we had better get this show on the road cause we have to simmer this Jello-O mixture first we simmer water with all the spices in it and then we have to strain out all the spices and then mix the powdered Jell-O into that seasoned water yum I know right you had me at seasoned water Kristen and then we have to chill it until it's syrupy okay so here's what I'm thinking we shall divide and conquer okay I'll make sandwiches cuz that is in my wheelhouse you can cut the tomato well not well but we're making two sandwiches for cry out loud that's true and you work on the Jello-O how's that sound yeah that sounds great okay now as we are cooking I had looked up some things about cooking in the year that this recipe came out and we haven't done anything about 1963 cuz we weren't even born yet no and I think that was Pre Mary's Memo I think it probably was yeah I want to say like 73 was about the first year that they came out maybe I'm not sure but 1963 was the very first year that the wonderful Julia Child had her cooking show on PBS called The French Chef oh she's awesome she is I think we should do the entire rest of this podcast in Julia Child voices I feel like the idea is to keep listeners oh and not drive them off quickly well I have a great story to tell you you all remember our friend Laurie who came and tasted our delicious cake that had beets in it do you remember that yes the surprise cake yeah I've got a secret cake well do you know I recently saw her and she told me a story that she used to work with a woman who used to be a nun okay who then stopped being a nun and worked for Julia Child on her show do you know what she did was a sous Chef well kind of ish she sat under the counter where Julia was cooking and would hand her stuff during the show now that's a gig that I would like I mean if you're going into Showbiz I mean you wouldn't to worry how you look you could wear ugly clothes you're sitting on the floor handed Wooden Spoons up to Julia Child it just requires a little organization yeah a little pre-planning oh yeah that's a gig for me I think that's a good gig I feel if I'm making it in Hollywood that's where how I'm going to do it okay so I'm going to make four little samies cuz that way we can torture our loved ones that's a great idea we can make sure they all taste it yeah you know and as we decided to make these herb glazed sandwiches I was looking around online to see if there were other recipes for Jello on sandwiches right oh okay and I found something on my favorite Reddit I have some Reddit finds as well ooh so the one I found this is what it was titled warning cringe alert oh it was a picture it said I'm not sure who or why these were brought I didn't try them but I was hoping there was booze in them for other people's sake okay and it was literally white bread with green Jello sandwiched in between two white bread slices no and they were cut into little bites did they cut the crusts off at least yes so it was like fancy interesting and they didn't put anything in the Jell-O the Jell-O was the Protein that's all that it looked like it looked like white bread with a thick slab o green Jello that is something special something special what did you find on Reddit so I found a recipe mhm that uh somebody posted and it is called tuna Jell-O salad oh no and it sounds like a pretty we start off good tuna chopped walnuts celery some yellow pepper some hardboiled eggs yeah pimento some cheese most of that I could I could handle yep and then we're going to take some lemon Jello okay uh salt and grated onion oh no we're gonna put that whole bad boy in a dish yes oh no just I'm sorry just the Jello let it congeal and then we're going to add in some mayonnaise and you have your choice for this next one heavy cream or small packages of coffee creams or powdered milk coffee creamer mhm oh no and then you're going to mix all that together and put it in an oblong Pyrex dish and chill it in the refrigerator and then oh no there's more you're going to serve it with hot peas and rolls even better oh my gosh that sounds horrific up with that horrific so people started responding to some of their Savory Jello things that they have had and so I wrote down some of my favorite responses so one person wrote we have a similar Family Recipe oh tuna jello salad step one put in garbage can that's awesome I thought that was good and then my favorite yes is my mom used to make orange Jello with grated carrots and sliced olives what it's a nice spot between Savory and sweet I've made it myself now I think it's time to go make it again no I mean I even love olives but olives with orange Jello and carrots and and she acted like it was good oh my gosh and she makes it okay so I was inspired by these crappy Savory Jello recipes okay I want you to tell about it but I'm going to go ahead and start this simmering so you're going to hear a little noise there we're going to turn this sucker on to get simmering okay so I have Kristen a list of four Jello recipe titles four Jello recipe titles and I want you to pick which one I made up huh are you ready okay I'm ready okay number one yeah Cherry ketchup salad oh God I'd like to think that's fake but number two okay pickle Olive Jell-O salad oh come on number three carrot zucchini beet vegetable salad okay and number four pimento cheese Jello salad oh man I only made up one of them and I'm not kidding it's like sometimes you make them all up and you're like ha no no no three of them are real recipes one is one I made up I was going to do like pea and tuna fish Jsalad but I thought that would kind of give it away yeah that would okay you want me to do them again yeah okay Cherry ketchup salad okay pickle Olive Jello salad carrot zucchini beet vegetable salad and pimento cheese Jello salad okay I am going to guess one because I think it's a little more trendy nowadays and thinking these crazy Jello recipes are from the so I am going to guess that you made up the pimiento cheese Jello salad that is incorrect what I mean they literally the recipe is you take pimento cheese and you add like a Jello glaze into oh no it was gag worthy no I made up carrot zucchini beet vegetable salad well that one sounded the most reasonable to me the Cherry ketchup one was real that is what inspired this whole thing cuz I was like how why where oh my gosh yes that's gross cherry ketchup salad I thought that was great okay so in the 60s yeah Jello was a big thing and they even tried well the Savory salad Jello which we had talked about so I found an ad for these new salad gelatins that's right and the flavors that they come in and so they have celery mixed vegetable uh Italian salad and seasoned tomator oh to make like a tomato aspic yeah we've told our listeners about these before but not tomato

tomator okay we didn't tell our listeners about that I don't know but it blends the tastes of meat fish and veggies you put in a salad okay and here's the okay the fabulous um it is you'll never make a gelatin salad that is a dessert at heart again no so delicious that they knew you would want to make savory Jello salads is it like tomato and orange maybe I I don't know tomator tomator I'm all self-righteous going yeah Carrie we've told our listeners about this before and you didn't remember Loser yeah yeah I did remember but I thought this was slightly different well the tomator is completely different and super horrifying and sometimes it's worth hearing twice it is well I found something interesting about Jello as well okay it is a website called Joey Greens wacky uses for things okay who's Joey I have no idea but uh he apparently goes on The Today Show and stuff like that oh he's like a guy he's a guy and I found uh one of the pages on his website was Joey Green's 22 wacky uses for Jello gelatin oh fantastic yes so I'm going to list some of his wacky ideas can I think of I have an idea yeah yeah okay give me one I think you could use it to soak your nails in to strength your nails cuz it does have a lot of collagen and stuff in right that is a clever idea he did not say to soak your nails but he did recommend soaking your feet in Jello to deodorize them what yes that's the weirdest I think this guy may have a Jello fetish because a lot of his wacky ideas was using Jello on your body parts hmm I mean I went with nails but right he also a minute I I can kind of see this as a hair gel okay well I suppose it's gelatinous it would be like dippety do back in the day maybe but it's edible I mean you would think it would break down probably and get like powdery as it dried stinky non healthy way what if you use tomator Jello in your hair that be nice another one I thought was really weird it says you can stop a nose bleed with Jello now how weird is that okay there's a lot of questions there yeah I used to have nose bed all the time when I was in Middle School and so this would have been very helpful I hope the school nurse would have a packet of Jello and here's what you're supposed to do oh he gives instructions oh yeah yeah yeah oh good cuz I was really curious as to how one would do do you have to prepare the Jello no but the measurements on this is pretty scary there's measurements oh yeah you are supposed to take an entire tablespoon of Jello powder okay now this to me is reminiscent of the cinnamon challenge of a few years ago you take the entire tablespoon of Jello powder put it on your tongue and press the Jello against the roof of your mouth slowly letting it dissolve how would you not cough or inhale that and then sneeze and gag on that I yeah a whole tablespoon a whole I can see maybe a teaspoon right a tablespoon of Jello powder and apparently it helps with clotting the wound how how does it clot a wound in your nasal passages I I don't know it make no dang sense to me it doesn't make a lick sense I think this guy is weird because then again he loves to talk about putting your body in Jello so um wait what well I mean you know they have Jello-O wrestling well that's one of the things he suggests she suggestes seriously yeah he's a kinky guy he says um you can you can uh wrestle in it you can fill someone's bathtub with it as a prank or you can use use it in your bathtub to enhance marital relations shut your face that's what it said and how much Jello do you need to put in a bathtub can you imagine how much if you're using a tablespoon on your tongue for a nose bleed I mean box after box after box you'd have to go to Costco you would oh yeah for sure that's craziness I thought those were insane Joey green jeans he's a weirdo oh my gosh Joey green jeans man he's crazy that's something else I know right I feel like maybe you should just stick to eating it I think so too skip the glaze yep skip the wacka dooodle stuff oh yeah oh look Carrie has made four lovely sandwiches which we are henceforth going to destroy with some Jello glaze we're going to throw those bad boys out as soon as we try the first one oh yes we are okay in the meantime we are still simmering simmering simmering every day we simmering okay I'm going to take a picture cuz they're pretty cute I did a pretty good job they're very nice I'm so glad we went tiny you're allowed to make full-size sandwiches and I thought I don't think I can gag down or waste an entire sandwich if this is horrific I will say the only concern I have with these yeah is it's a baguette so the outside is kind of crusty oh right and you know how it gets kind of hard to bite through I had that concern but here here was what happened I looked for cocktail ryes I thought they would be perfect rye bread with roast beef and horseradish delicious cocktail ryes tender you can bite it it's made for appetizers nobody had any that's just as well cuz I'm not a fan of the rye bread okay well then I did great it's a little potent yeah and I had this baguette left over from dinner the other night and I thought well let's just use it if we're going to throw it away we might as well so the edge is going to be super chewy it might be or maybe the Jello will soften it up a little bit cuz there is a little bread showing around the roast beast there is I didn't know quite how to do it I I Googled this recipe I Googled like glazed sandwiches yeah and um found this recipe with a a picture of the roast beef really you did better than I did it was a big I'm sorry what was that what did you

find go ahead tell us what you found Carrie how how did I do compared to what you found adequate a um so they had the roast beef with the edges all like ruffly on the top and then they were super shiny due to the the glaze maybe this will be tasty maybe I kind of feel like if it was just gelatin with with the herbs with the herbs in it and different herbs like it's it is weird it's the bay yeah there's a whole thing going on the internet where people are joking about the fact that nobody knows what flavor bay is it's potent and unpleasant but you add it to stuff and you never go oh that has too much bay or huh I added one bay leaf and I can't taste it very much nobody goes around going hmm what do I taste in this chili must be bay yeah that's true I mean I've I've never tasted anything my husband has cooked and thought you know what would make this better is a bay leaf bay right but you can taste something and go oh I taste the oregano I can taste the dill I can taste basil but nobody knows what a bay leaf really tastes like no but just of the herbs that you just mentioned yeah the dill I'm fine with but oregano good old Rosemary a little you said one other one that I thought would have been delicious that I can't recall anymore basil basil yeah that would have been tasty that would all those I'm fine with salt I'm fine with a little cayenne give it a little zip yeah that's in there too all of that I think it's the bay and then we're going to add vinegar yeah so it's going to be tart too yeah this will be something well you know whatever we're making it that's so funny I want you to smell this it's green looking it's kind of the color of well hydrated urine it's so true it smells real dilly doesn't it it does yeah with a hint of bay if I actually had any idea what that smelled or tasted like I'm going to strain this you know what I think we should do Kristen what should we do this is a gift to our listeners what's that let's have you take a bite of the bay leaf now that it's been simmered and soft and tell us all exactly what bay tastes like I'm totally going to do it I'm no chicken lickin let me get that bay leaf first I'm going to smell it it's been all rehydrated yep it smells spicy oh okay let me smell it too there's a little uh bit of dill on it but smell it it smells it does smell spicy mhm she's not really chewing it maybe she's licking it yeah it tastes like a big fat nothing huh I don't taste a bloomin thing interesting it smells yummy maybe it just gives a scent maybe it's more of an aromatic probably huh all right how about if you do the vinegar I think the vinegar part is really where you lose me three tablespoons Carrie three tablespoons we only have 1 and 1/4 cup of liquid and we're going to add three tablespoons of vinegar to it we have made other Jello recipes with insanely low expectations yes I'm think thinking lemon Jello corned beef mold that's right and it was edible shockingly not bad I wouldn't need a big plate of it oh no no but it was considering what we expected it was a tasty Delight it really was all right I'm tearing open the Jello now that we have those other things in there the smell is much more powerful I'm feeling slightly nauseated from this really all right I'm going to stir the Jello in we're going to keep stirring so let's think about some fun stuff from 1963 cuz I'm really nauseated from smelling this remember how you were with the beef brownies oh that one really put me oh this one's kind of put me over the edge okay so let's think about some music from 1963 cuz I'm the music girl I like to make you guys Spotify playlist I didn't make you one for this but I probably could have oh there were some really really amazing hits from 63 and it surprised me okay so one of our dad's all-time favorite songs actually I believe it is his ring tone bird is the word no but that's a great song b b b bird bird bird bird is the word it is a horrible song that is pretty much all they do for two minutes that's right he sings it great oh he loves it absolutely loves it no no no it was down down down Burning Ring of Fire oh Johnny Cash he does love himself some Johnny Cash he does he likes to tell a joke he made oh he made a joke oh yeah right just one he uh he went to work one day and he had on a gray shirt and gray pants yeah and you know Johnny Cash used to dress all in black and so he got to work and he kept telling everybody he was Johnny Cash light that's hilarious nobody thought so oh come on I think that's funny he got no laughs obviously you're his daughter for a reason well another famous song that came out that I didn't realize was a big hit I thought it was actually a kid song hello Muddah hello Faddah oh here I am at Camp Granada that was one of the top 100 hits of 1963 1963 there's some other songs from that time and it is pretty remarkable the goofiness of the words you are not kidding because there was a song by Chuck Berry okay all about his ding-dong what my dingaling my dingaling my dingaling won't you play with my dingaling I did not realize it it is a male anatomy song his dingaling oh yeah that's a highly inappropriate song I remember singing it on the school bus in elementary school that's hilarious we were going on some like trip you had no idea that was no it just sounded like fun won't you play yeah the bay in that Jello is so overwhelming you do not know if it's the bay it's a spicy smell it is a spicy smell this smells like we've taken Lemon Pledge and mixed horrific herbal things to it it is just heinous it is okay so we have that in the fridge it's cooling it doesn't say how long to cool it until it's syrupy at all so I guess we're just going to have to keep checking it we're going to wing it Kristen well one of my favorite things to do I can see by the look on your face that you are already nervous I don't like winging things Carrie oh my gosh I am so excited to live a willy-nilly lifestyle but that's when things go awry they do we couldn't find rye Kristen oh that's true okay and I'm glad we couldn't all righty well shall we wait for some Jello to cool we will okay we will be right back [Music]  well I think the gel is gelatinized it is so we did take a shortcut full disclosure yep we put it in the freezer cuz who's got time for sitting around watching glaze glaze no kidding we even put it in like like an 8 by 8 casserole dish so it would get you know chilled faster increase the surface area that's right but unlike other times when we've worked with Jello we did not go too far and turn it into complete Jello no so it is now kind of a disgusting yellow color with flakes of dill  weed suspended throughout oh yes and it is syrupy absolutely syrupy it's perfect it smells not very good but let's try it so okay Carrie is going to pour it over the little sandwiches which I have put on a rack and I put the rack on a cookie sheet it looks funny well you can certainly see why you want to put it on a rack you don't want it sitting in that Jello no well oh woah there's some sections here that are a little more jelly yeah then uh glazy and so oh oh I saw a clump a clot of Jello come out sometimes oh my gosh you know what that yellow reminds me of now that I see it kind of sitting on the tray it's like the the color of Disney's Winnie the Pooh yeah that's a nice way to share to me it looks like someone was real dehydrated and had to go potty okay I'm going to take a picture so I have a before picture of them and now an after picture of them do you want to throw them in the fridge real fast Kristen yeah cuz we want to get that glaze to kind of thicken yeah so visually they're very pretty I mean in the picture they're super shiny I think it'll look pretty on a little plate yeah so they go back in the fridge until the glaze is firm so apparently we're going to move somewhere between syrupy and firm I honestly don't understand why I don't want to be slurping it as I take a bite of the sandwich you know what I mean yeah that's just pretty nasty yeah that doesn't sound very good pretty nasty oy yoy yoy all right so should we wait until they're ready and then come back or did you have some fun and exciting factoid that that you've been just dying to share you know how I love to do research on the year in which the recipe came out yes and this Joys of Jello cookbook was from 1963 yep and so I found a game that I'm not sure if we loved it as kids I don't think we ever played it as was meant to be played as kids but it came out in ' 63 I feel like I know exactly just given that opener really mouse trap absolutely never ever ever played that game correctly loved the game oh yeah never played it correctly that's so funny it was a pain in the drain to set up and then things would not work quite properly as you played but it sure was fun to play with the little Rube Goldberg situations that were in it it was yeah I don't even know that I know how to play the game we would just set up the mouse trap and you know who goes around the board and that was fun do you remember your favorite part of the mouse trap contraption I don't all I remember is the um red plastic net oh yes that fell down the plastic yellow post and the post was almost like a saw blade and so as it fell it would jiggity joggy that's right down but I that is the only part that I remember about the entire contraption really the only thing I remember other than the net is a plastic boot on a stick and it would go flop and I think it would kick a ball and the ball would go into a basket I do I don't remember what happened went into a bucket it was a heavy metal ball mmhmm yeah I remember the boot the boot that's pretty cool I love that game never played it correctly you know a game I don't know if it came out in' 63 but another game that we would play quite often that we did not play as directed was cootie I was just going to say that really it's the only other childhood game I can think of that the the actual game was way lamer yeah than just playing you just put together the cootie and it was kind of fun it was but I remember babysitting for some kids and they're like let's play cootie and I'm like okay and I start putting the cootie together and they're like what are you doing that's not how you play the game oh and I'm like there's a game have any idea we never never never played it no we just put the cootie together right I found a 1963 Popular Mechanics magazine cuz we're so into mechanics well you know just cuz it's not something that I remember when nothing in 1963 doesn't mean that somebody else wouldn't enjoy it and it cost 35 cents woah what a deal what a deal I enjoyed looking through it um first off there are all kinds of ads for various education opportunities oh my yes do this education opportunity and earn $3 to $5 an hour whoa oh yeah a lot of that wow do you remember those things when we were kids you could draw Timmy the Turtle and then get accepted into an art school do you remember those I do yeah were they like in the Sunday paper that's right and you just had to send this into this particular school and you could be accepted and become a famous artist just by drawing Timmy the Turtle yeah well this you could become a machinist but they did have some things that are not anything surprising but I don't know I forget that these things just haven't been around forever right okay so one of the articles was titled if disc brakes are so good why don't more cars have them oh my gosh one of the things it said is with a disc brake you have to slam literally slam on the brake with a lot of force oh and that lady drivers would not have the strength to successfully use such disc brakes woah which reminds me of our grandma's car it was a Hornet and it was brown which is hilarious because Bill Cosby had a comic character called the brown Hornet so did my grandma that's right remember she got the seats changed to this God awful plastic stuff that would stick to your legs in the heat and leave a waffle weave on the back of your bare legs she left her car outside and it was so old that the sun would come in and rot the fabric yeah so she'd get it recovered yeah I remember that she also got power brakes put on it and the first time you drove that car you would merely tap those breaks and go through the windshield oh it was horrible it was she drove it all the time and would send you through the windshield that's right it was crazy it was nuts you looked like an absolute idiot it was like eeh uh eeh uh cuz you were stopping so hard and then you let it go and then you get scared and then you stop it real hard yeah ridiculous cuz a little car like that but I I never even thought of that it's because when she got that they didn't have the power part of the power brakes that's right well I think I'm going to go grab the sandwiches ooh let's do it okay so look at this  I think it's gelatinized pretty well how many are you going to stick on that plate for us to try two just two all right take a little picture I gave us some punch too since this is a party oh this feels just like an afternoon luncheon since this is the recipe that you chose that my gift to you is letting you go first and I'm going for this one oh she picked the smallest one I did okay that's great all right so we've got horseradish butter roast beef a very thinly sliced tomato and the glaze and I will tell you that Kristen on occasion says she likes something and she's it's really not her favorite she's she's a very positive person and so you're always going to hear the most positive spin on her thoughts about a food so I think this will be super interesting to hear what she has to say based on the look on her face and the shaking of the head back and forth okay so I I went through a range of emotions you go ahead and take a bite and I'll tell you what my range was I took a bite and I was like well this is not bad this is tasty and then the dill hit it is so much dill it just kind of gagged me out a little bit and then as the Jello kind of went away and I got down to the horseradish and the roast beef I thought oh well this is tasty when the Jello not there what do you think Carrie's face has turned beet red it's horrible I'm going to take another bite the little sandwich lovely the Jello glaze I have no no kind words about the Jello glaze so Kristen has an upset Elvis look on her face one lip is curled her head's shaking back and forth I really need some of the liquid to run that that lemon nightmare out of my mouth when the lemon night nightmare goes away it's a delicious sandwich the sandwich is tasty I made some fabulous sandwiches today y'all you did great I don't notice the cayenne I don't notice that the Jello seem salty it is way too much dill and I think I may taste bay leaf and it is just freaking fracking nasty I have a nothing but aftertaste of bay leaf in my mouth we now know what bay leaf tastes like oh and there's a reason nobody knows what it tastes like because if you did you would not be putting that in your food and it's not just so you're hit with lemon and it's just not lemon because you know there's vinegar in there yeah it is lemon it is I don't notice the vinegar really much that's that's not grossing me out at all it's the herb choices it was lemon and bay awful and I feel like I should take another bite to better be able to explain my dislike but I'm not going to people I love you but my level of dedication has hit  it's max yeah it's the herbs they chose I might actually have liked this if it had basil or some other herb in it and not lemon the lemon is what else would you choose well I would go plain gelatin and just have it the herb flavors okay you know what might even taste good like on a chicken sandwich would be to like infuse cucumber in it or something like that I know exactly what they needed what tomator that's what would taste good it is the perfect opportunity yes for tomator it is the perfect you know I say tomator it's possible that I typoed tomato just dawned on me oh my gosh wait let me get my phone what if it's not tomator and we have done an entire podcast I said that I thought huh I wonder if I just hit the wrong letter oh no oh my gosh okay wait everybody to tomator oh shoot I can't even type but in all reality any of those 1965 salad gelatin flavors a celery a mixed vegetables Italian salad those would have been delicious oh 1963 so they weren't out then right Carrie I'm not seeing tomator did you try Jello salad gelatin not yet let me Google it correctly for you okay I found it I found it on a website called midcenturymenu.com kudos to whoever runs that and if I zoom in on the ad hold on I'm old I have to take my glasses off it says oh what is it so I copied the wording of the new Jello salad gelatin comes in four flavors blah blah blah seasoned tomator yes however oh if I look up at the ad the ad says seasoned tomato oh my God midcentury mom if you're checking out your previous web pages um you've got a typo I love the name though tomator I love it I think they if we could go back to 1965 we should fix that I would glaze a sandwich with one of those I probably would like um do they have a cucumber one or was it just celery no it's I think there's an Italian seasoning one that be tasty Italian salad well I can only see her writing I'm not trusting that anymore Italian salad Italian salad mixed vegetable celery and seasoned tomato oh any of those would be tastier than what we have here but then again this recipe came out prior to yeah two years yeah uh before well at least before that ad existed so they might not have but I can see why they created those because if people are making this crap right they were like oh well this is bound to taste anything would taste better than the lemon debacle it was the lemon debacle of 1963 I would have to say it was yeah I will say however that I would eat this over orange Jello with grated carrots and green olives I totally agree so you know I I said Kristen likes to have a positive spin and I just helped her out I'm so proud of you Carrie well on that note that's it for this episode thanks so much for joining us you guys and tasting the lemon debacle of

1963 now while you'll probably never make this recipe I hope you don't please don't you might want to check out the picture at Momswoodenspoon.com also be sure to set your alarm for our next episode which will be released on February 26th Carrie and I will be getting a little nutty with a sweet treat from 1974

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