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Episode Transcript for Oh Henry & Scotcharoos

The Midwest is famous for lots of things. Yes, like nice people and bland food. Well, yes, that is true. There are a few desserts that are also top on the list, but not Buckeyes. Wait a minute. Not Buckeyes? Come on, Carrie. What do you mean? How would a girl from Ohio not highlight Buckeyes on her podcast? This episode is going to suck, Carrie. I can't believe you even thought of this. Why not a Buckeye? Buckeyes are my favorite. Peanut butter and chocolate. You can't get any better than that. It's my son's favorite, too. Carrie Buckeyes are an Ohio and Midwest staple.

Welcome to Mom's Wooden Spoon, where the recipes are retro, and so are your hosts. You can say that again.

Welcome to Mom's Wooden Spoon. Yay. We say that in the very beginning, too. So, I was listening as I was editing. Well, we're repetitive and redundant very repetitive and redundant. You need to stop saying that, Carrie. No, don't welcome. Not welcome to you guys on a second time, but welcome the first time. Pause. Hello, and thank you for joining us today. That's better. Yay. We are having a very unique episode. Yes, we are. Yeah, we are shaking up our shakeup. Shake it, shake it, baby. Not like that. That's creepy. So, today, not only are we going to do a regional favorite Yes. Yes. Yes. We are going to do a two regional favorites. As Carrie likes to say, dos deux I did French  you did Spanish Oh, it's like our high school lives back together again. Thank you, Monsieur Munn. I don't have any idea who my high school Spanish teacher is. Not a clue. A, that's sad. Thank you, Miss Spanish teacher. Yeah. Okay. So, we have mentioned on more than one occasion our father's love of the Scotcheroo. Yes. So, dad, this is for you. It might be called mom's wooden spoon, but today it's dad's scotcheroos

And then we found Yeah. another recipe called the Oh, Henry Bar. Yes. People kept comparing them to the scotcheroo. Okay. So, I find this fascinating. It depends on who you Okay. So, both of them are very Midwestern. Both. Yes. Both recipes very Midwestern. Yes. And in many places the names are interchangeable with the Oh Henry bar. Yes. People think of Scotcheroos as oh Henry bars. Now this is weird because then I found that Minnesotans have their own version of the scotcheroo called the special K bar. They use special K cereal. I knew this because I have a colleague that is Minnesotan. Shout shout out to Jan. Yay Jan who I think we will hear from later on. Yes we will. But she has mentioned the same thing with like oh everybody loves my scotcheroos. I use the special K. And I'm like I'm sorry what? Wait a minute. Yeah, but I didn't say that cuz that seemed rude. So, I just let her talk about it and I acted like I knew what she was talking about. But yeah, so it's fascinating. Are Scotcheroos and Oh, Henry bars and special K bars all the same? Are they not? We don't know. It's shaking up the shake up. But we actually found two very separate recipes. And I actually have like a little description between the two, the O'Henry bar and the Scotcheroos Okay. So, Scotcheroos typically use Rice Krispies. Yes. And they are non-bake. No bake. Yes. Oh Henry Bars. No Rice Krispies. They actually have a base of oats, which I like. But their flavor profiles are pretty similar. We got some peanuts in an Oh Henry bar. Lots of peanuts. But anyway, so we're going to do both on the same episode, right? Yeah. Yeah. Boom bam bing. Yeah, that's what Carrie said. bars. My tummy is going to hurt after all the sugar, I think. Not mine. Typically, when someone serves the scotcheroos, they're in these little squares and you take one, you're like, "Oh, that's so good. Oh, I'm so satiated." And then 5 minutes later, it turns out you're no longer satiated. You need another one of those. And but they're small, so it's okay. But after you're there for an hour and every 10 minutes, you go back and get another one. Well, you've eaten them all. But that's okay. I think that's going to be worse with the Oh Henry bars because in my mind it's going to be healthy. Oats are healthy and peanuts are healthy protein. Yes, we are serving health food. We are. It's almost like granola. Yes. Yes. We're just making granola. Yeah. And everybody knows granola is good for you. That's right. I am worried though. It says do not overbake the oat base. And we were saying if you do, we might be having granola. Yes. And that's funny that you should mention that because I I looked on, you know, Reddit, as you do. Oh, yeah. To hear other people's comments about these things and I found someone who said, "Somewhere out there I have a joke picture of my mom trying to cut into these with a saw and a chisel. I remember them being hard to cut but very delicious." The Oh, Henry Bar. That'll be interesting because we have that story about our dad making the scotcheroos and boiling the Karo syrup too long. Remember how we had to boil the fudge frosting for the bumpy cake? Yes. Until it was the soft ball stage. I think dad boiled it till it was the hard ball stage and he had to go to the neighbors and like take back his gift. Don't eat these. Don't eat them. You'll chip a tooth. I don't want to have to have to pay your bill. And yes. Or if you're a dentist, Yeah. here's a great way to get some more business. Put these recipes on your counter so that people will take them home, chip a tooth, and come on in. Come on back. Guaranteed success people. All right. So, let's uh tell everybody what's in these Oh Henry bars. Yes. So, we're starting with the Oh Henry bars. And Kristen printed up a copy of the recipe. Thank you. And she printed it up at font five. It is smaller than the Mary's Memos and we're blind as heck. We're old. I'm going to pull it over. No one can see it. Um so, we've read it a couple times. I'm going to pick it up and hold it in front of my bifocals. so I can read it. Okay. So, we're going to make a crust first. Yes. And the crust is brown sugar, butter, honey, or corn syrup. We're going to do corn syrup. Notice I did not even put honey on the shopping list for you, Carrie, because I knew you wouldn't want it. Thank you. You're welcome. You're such a good sister. I know, right? Vanilla salt. We're going to stir that up, throw it in the bottom of a pan, and bake it. Yes. Hopefully get it out before it is chisel tough. Yep. And then we're going to add in the topping, which is chocolate chips and peanut butter. And then we're going to sprinkle the top of that with some chopped peanuts. And let that sucker cool. That sounds great. My favorite part of this whole recipe is at the very beginning it says, you know, preheat the oven and then make the oaty base. And it says grab a large bowl. Kristen did. I grabbed the heck was in my hand and she ripped it right out of it. Well, it said to grab it. And she did. I did. Good job. Thank you. Thank you very much. And it didn't say light brown sugar. Dark brown sugar. I'm a fan of dark brown sugar. And so I brought that. Yep. She's also a fan of dark Karo syrup. This is brand spanking new Karo syrup. Never opened before. Best By September 2023. No, I'm kidding. 27. Oh, thank goodness. Okay, what do we have to put in here? Brown sugar, melted butter, honey, corn syrup. Oh, you already did that. You already said all that to everybody. I'm Thanks, Kristen. She's so helpful, this Kristen. I'm going to be very helpful right now. And I'm going to spray butter flavor cooking spray in the liquid measuring cup for your Karo syrup. Okay, perfect. So, it slides out easily has butter in it. And I found someone else on the Reddit. Yes. who was indicating that their recipe called for Oleo. Oh, I love that. Oleo is such an old fashioned term. It is. Which is of course the margarine. The margarine. And so the person said, "Well, I never use Oleo." Yeah. I only use butter. And someone commented, "Actually, which FYI is always bad. Don't ever start your comment with actually." It sounds smart, alecky. Well, I'm pretty sure it is. Yeah. Actually, it would be far better to use shortening. Most margarine these days try to imitate the horrible taste and stench of butter. Stench. Shortening is closer to the Oleo margarine of yore Maybe mix some shortening with corn oil to better emulate it. Good lord, that person put way too much thought into this. I mean, in a rude way. It's It's a crust of the Oh Henry bar here, people. We're not than a Michelin five-star restaurant here. It's an Oh Henry bar. Yeah. Heck, we're using real butter cuz everything's better with butter. I'm I'm 100% with you. And you know what? We're using the generic butter that you get at the uh the BJ's Club. Oh, heck yeah. But I have to tell you, I recently watched I'm sure it was a Tik Tok. It was social media in some way. And this girl who was in college in a science class decided to do a taste test of chocolate chip cookies. I feel like I know where this is going to go. She made chocolate chip cookies with all generic ingredients and then she made uh chocolate chip cookies with all high-end ingredients like Ghirardelli chocolate and I think maybe Kerry Gold butter and then she had everybody taste the cookies. Okay. And guess which one won hands down? Well, since you're mentioning it as something notable, I'm gonna go with the generic. No. Oh, the Everybody could tell the high-end. Totally. I'm sure. Yeah. So, I have tried to make brown butter with um the generic butter. It pops and sizzles. There's too much water in it. You can't you can't ever brown it. I had to convince my husband that there's a difference between the high-end butter and the generic butter. He didn't. He said it's just butter. Nope. It's not. Kerry Gold is Oh, just delicious. I will never eat it, mind you, because I am far too cheap to purchase it. Yes. But yes, it would absolutely be the better option. But that's okay. We're just going to use Genero for the Oh Henry bars. It's better than Oleo. I feel like we should take shortening and corn oil to better emulate the Oleo of old. Oh yeah, cuz obvy that's the way this started. Obvy. So we have to put in this Karo syrup Oh my gosh I really cannot read this. Yes, we did. I didn't want to put it directly in without something else to kind of catch it. All right, the butter's in. All right, we need brown sugar. And it's a cup. And I So I brought the dark brown sugar cuz it is my fave. Yeah, but it's an open bag, so it's probably from 1954. Um, but I was afraid there wouldn't be enough. So, I also brought light brown sugar. Oh my gosh, this is going to be ruined again. I know. Did you look to see when the Best Buy date was? Best by date don't don't look. Can't find it. Oh, thank goodness. 2019 you're making it up. Oh, Carrie. Best Buy January 29th, 2025. It's not that old. No, that's good. And the light brown is by May 2027. That's darn near new. Okay, that's freaking fracking new. Okay, so I think we probably need to stir the brown sugar into the melted butter and the Karo syrup while the butter is still melty melt, right? Yes. Oh, and oats. We have to add oats. Yes. I was thinking maybe we would mix these ingredients and vanilla and salt. Oh, you want to do the ingredients? Vanilla and salt. The instructions say vanilla and salt. Then mix with a sturdy wooden spoon. Oh, it's ruined. I'm using a spatula. She's using a spatula. And she set out a wooden spoon. I did. I'm going to do that for the oats. Was concerned it wasn't sturdy enough. I know. I got a different And got a second wooden spoon. You know what? This dark brown sugar has a lot of weird chunkies in it. That's not melting into the melted butter. Carrie, I think it's too old. You Suck. Okay. Vanilla. How much vanilla and how much salt? Two teaspoons. Oh yeah. And how much salt? 1/4 teaspoon teaspoon. This recipe, y'all, we are going to be pathetic on this one cuz we can't see it. I know, right? All right. Vanilla. So, clearly, yes, these Oh Henry bars are named after the Oh Henry Bar. Okay. Right. One would assume. I have never eaten an Oh Henry bar. I don't think they don't even sell them in the US anymore. Wow. You can only find them in Canada. Somebody bought the I don't know who. Nestle whatever. Yeah. Bought the rights and they don't sell it in the US anymore. Really? Okay. Yeah. So, if you're wondering, I too have never had Oh Henry Bar. Where did it come about? Yes, I would like to know that. I'm going to tell you. Oh, please do. Yeah. It was introduced by the Williamson Candy Company in 1920. 1920. I wonder if that's when our teacher, Mrs. Williamson, was born. It probably was. Our second grade teacher. I thought she was very very old. And she warshed her hands. She warshed her hands. It was, and I thought this was funny, the first of Chicago's Holy Trinity. What? Of chocolate peanut caramel candy bars. Ooh. It came out before The Baby Ruth. Wow. Which was Curtis Candy Company. Okay. And before Snickers, which came out like far far later. Yeah. It was started by George Williamson. And I thought this was kind of cool. So George sold newspapers. He was a newsy. A newsy. That's a good musical. Yes. Um with his little cap and he sold newspapers. And then eventually he got a job with the Bunte Brothers. Oh. Which is a candy firm. And so he would push the candy cart around and sell candy. And then he kind of got interested in candy. Not bundt cakes. Huh. No. And so by the age of 26, he used most of his $1,000 life savings to buy his own tiny sweet shop in Chicago. Oh, neat. Okay, so this is really cool in the fact that it is almost the exact same location and the exact same story as Emil Brachs. Oh, Brachs candy. Yes. From 10 years earlier, Emil Brachs apparently worked for the Bunte Company. Nuhuh. had $1,000 in life savings. What? And started his first candy shop in darn near the exact same spot. That's crazy. I think that's really cool. Very copycat. I know. But I'm sure that, you know, one had no idea of the other. Yeah, that's really neat I thought that was cool. So, the next question that you have is I always have them. Why? Oh, Henry Bar. I mean, it was started by a guy named George Williamson. Yeah. Okay. Nobody knows. Oh, come on. All that lead up, Carrie. But there's all kinds of stories about why. Oh, I'd love to know the speculation. Okay. So, apparently Paul Harvey, I don't know who that is, but he had a radio show. You don't know who Paul Harvey is. Huhuh. Okay. Yeah, he had a radio show. Okay. I don't know who he was either, but he had a radio. No, I do. I do. Okay. Well, apparently it was not good enough for me to know about it. But his radio show is in Now you know the rest of the story. Yes. Okay. So, he tells this big long story. The gist of it is is that there was a young guy uh who worked at the factory named Henry. Okay. The Williamson factory. He was a jack of all trades. And then anybody who needed something done at the factory would say, "Oh, Henry, I love it. and so they named the bar after him. That's cute." Okay, that's a good one. I like that one. I thought so. So, the candy bar was actually invented by someone named Tom Henry. Okay. Yes. Who ran a candy company called the Peerless Candy Factory. And in 1919, he started making the Tom Henry candy bar, which he sold to the Williamson Candy Company in 1920, and they changed the name to Oh, Henry. So, these are just all theories. This one actually seems to have some legs. Okay. Because the Henry family still runs the Peerless Candy Factory in Dexter, Kansas, and they sell a Mama Henry bar. A Mama Henry bar? Yes. Which is nearly identical to the original Oh Henry Bar. Interesting. So, that one might be accurate. Okay. So, the last option, the last option, yes, says that C. Kenneth Crocker, the eldest son, he was 95 when he shared this story, of Charles Henry Crocker, okay, said that his father, Charles Henry Crocker, and his godparents, May and George Williamson, Oh. Uh-huh. started the candy company. Okay. And the stories of the naming of the bar are completely untrue. Oh my. Um, the bar had to be wrapped before it was named. And his father and George were out to lunch. And midway through the lunch, his father called the waiter for a refill. Uhhuh. Oh, Henry. And then that was how they named the bar. Wow. So, nobody really knows. Nobody has any idea. So, I mean, are we going to call a 95 year-old man a liar? I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna. But then what about the Henry's of Kansas who have a mama Henry bar are they liars? Somebody's a liar. Lies. I mean, good grace. All right. So, I have now mixed the oat mixture. It is padded with my damp hands into this 9 by13in pan. Yeah. And then we are going to bake it. The directions say that it will not change color much. So, don't expect it to get any browner. Okay. Okay. So, I think we have to put it in at 350. How many minutes? Nobody can tell, 15 minutes. Okay. So, we're going to bake this and then when we get back, we're going to melt the topping. Yeah. And then it's pretty much just throw the topping on. Yep. And then let it rest. Yeah. That's not bad. All right. So, when we come back, Carrie will have more falsehoods to share. Lies. I shall be filled with lies.

Okay, so we have the oaty base in the oven cooking. Do we spell that OT? The OT base. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, because we're hip and cool. We are hip and cool like that. If I was texting it to you, that's what I would do to save the finger typing. Yeah. To, you know, O A T Y is so too much. Too much. I mean, I'm old. I punctuate everything I text. So I type out oaty. Who are we kidding? OT. Okay, so we are now going to get started on the scotcheroos while the OT base bakes. We're doing a switcheroo to scotcheroo. OM gosh, I just love that. Oh my gosh, so witty Okay, so now I did a little research on the scotcheroo. Oh good. Yes. Some people say that the first Scotcheroo recipe was actually printed on the Rice Krispie Box in the 1960s and then others say that the first Scotcheroo recipe was a Nestle's chocolate chip ad in 1964. So again, we don't know exactly, you know, when it came out, but it was in the mid 60s. Wait, wait a minute. What? I think you're wrong. I'm Not.

It's not even funny. She didn't even buy it. No. No. Okay. But they do know that it was originally called chocolate scotcheroos. Okay. And that of course the scotch comes from adding the butterscotch, not just a bottle of scotch, which is very disappointing. It is kind of. My friend in Minnesota Yeah. says she also makes a scotcheroo without the chocolate topping, which is a huge hit. No. Yeah, she does say that, Kristen. Yes, she does. Okay. So, apparently there is some Scotcheroo controversy. Oh, I do love a good controversy. Yes. Some people take issue with the cutesy name Scotcheroo. And here's what they say on the interwebs. Are you ready? Oh, I Yes. Yeah. Is there any more unnerving word really than scotcheroo? I have a vision of a gigantic marsupial in a kilt bounding around Edinburgh with a wee plaid clad young one tucked into its pouch. I'm a scotcheroo. I'm a scotcheroo. Is Is that how that would talk? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I thought it was great. I think that's hilarious. I feel like linoleum is a far worse word than scotcheroo. Oh, I agree. I agroo. I agroo. And how does an agroo talk, Kristen. I agroo scotcheroo.

Oh my gosh. And a 2000 headline in the same newspaper was more direct. Scotcheroo gesundheit. So this newspaper clearly has people who really are hating on the scotcheroo. Yep. Okay. So if they're going to criticize, they need to propose a better alternative, which they did not. What I know, right? That is lazy journalism. I say lazy journalism. And then it goes on and on about this big beef with Minnesotans about this special K bar. They do have an edge in Minnesota, but one Scotcheroo proponent says, "Kelloggs no longer publishes the recipe for special K bars, but they still publish the recipe for scotcheroos. Oh, we're the winner."

I kind of know I'm sad that we're hating on Minnesotans. I know. I really love them. What if we have any Minnesotan listeners? And we probably will because we are making a Minnesotan dish later in the season, right? And then they're never going to know cuz they're going to listen to this episode Kristen you're driving them off. I'm so sorry. But one more thing about Minnesotans here. But before I'm done hating on them, let me get this out. Let me get this one more. Uh there there's another stupid dumb Minnesotans. No. No. I love them. Okay. Another one said, "This is the greatest conflict of our time. Remember to be on the right side of history, folks. Don't choose the dim copycat of a bar, as this person's mother puts it. Choose the right. Choose the light. Choose scotcheroos.

I love that. It is the greatest conflict of our time. Yes. Me, too. I feel like I can get behind that 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm 100% on the right with scotcheroos. Yes. But if you are from Minnesota and you love your special K bar, feel free to email us a hate email. We like all email because as we said before, we don't get any. Any email will do. That's right. momswooden spoon1@gmail.com. Email us, please. Just one word would do. Scotcheroo, vote one. That would be great. Special K bars are better. You guys suck. We're fine with that. We're good with that. We really are good with that. But let me clarify. Carrie said nothing bad about the Minnesotans. The hate goes to Christ. I said nothing bad about Minnesotans. I just said they were wrong. Well, so am I. So I feel your pain, Minnesota. Everybody's wrong, Kristen's right. Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. So, gosh, I feel so bonded now with Minnesota. You should. You should. I really do. Okay, so now we have my gigantic metal bowl that Carrie got me for my birthday. It is a great bowl. It's huge. It is. Here. I feel like I need to do this.

Special K bars. The gong show, baby. They got the gong. You totally got my reference. I did. Okay, so let's talk about what's in the scotcheroo. I think we've already said rice krispie treats. It's got some butter, some granulated sugar, some corn syrup, and peanut butter. And then later, the topping are delicious chocolate chips and butterscotch chips. Most importantly, the topping. Yes. Now, both of these recipes have some cooking involved, but the scotcheroo is a stove top cook. It is going to be cooked in a saucepan to make sure that the sugar gets blended in with the corn syrup cuz you know you need sugar added to the sweet, sweet, sweet corn syrup. Uh yeah. So, I like this people. We are here for you. Yeah. In the summer, it's got your room. It's a stove top. You don't have to heat up the house. Yeah. in the winter. Oh, Henry bars. Yes. Oh my gosh, that's perfect. You can Midwest eat year round. Yes, you could. And who wouldn't want to? I mean, I do. I do, too. Okay, so it looks like we have two minutes on those Oh, Henry Bar Oaty base. All right. The answer, by the way, to who wouldn't want to is my husband. Oh, my husband wouldn't want to eat Midwestern year round. You know what? Party pooper. Oh, he totally is. Yeah. Okay. So, we're going to measure the Rice Krispies into a It says very large bowl. And I was in charge of purchasing the Rice Krispies. Yeah. And um there was one box out of the three options for Rice Krispies that was on sale. And so it was the giant size. She ain't kidding. It's huge. It is gigantic. And so then I thought, well, maybe I should just get the generic Rice Krispies one. And I had my daughter with me. Yes. And I was like, I can't do it. She's like, "What do you mean?" Even the picture of the Rice Krispies or just the crisp rice on the front, they were flat and not airy looking. We have had issues with the generic Rice Krispies before when we made those Rice Krispie chocolate chip cookies. Remember that? Yes. And I bought generic and it was not good they're awful flat. Let me finish counting. So, I think I put two. I have I've been keeping fingers to count. That 3 was lame. Four. She's going light on the the no I'm not five. There's a big gap. She's not even filling it up completely. six Wow. And our Oh Henry bars are ready. That's perfect timing. You take a picture of the rice krispies saved by the bell. Yeah. Your your lazy measuring technique. Oh, you're so mean to me. Look at this bowl, y'all. That is six cups. Oh, you can see all the dots of unmelted brown sugar that Carrie brought. You know what? Well, I feel like this might be the last Mom's Wooden Spoon episode ever, people. I can't I can't do it. I cannot do it. Okay. I What I really appreciate is that she took my threat Oh, so seriously. I did. She's guffawing in the background. Okay, so we need to just take a pause now. I need to melt the topping for the Oh Henry bars and then we'll be done with those. So, we are going to go melt in the micro. It says to put the bowl over simmering pot of water and do it like a double boiler. Yeah, we're not going to do that. We ain't got time for that, people. No, we have scotcheroos to make. Yeah, we do. So, we've got the bowl filled with Rice Krispies for the scotcheroos. We have the oaty base cooling. And now we're going to melt the chocolate chips with peanut butter. Spread that over the top of the oaty base. Sprinkle on some beautifully pre- chopped peanuts. They are not chopped. I just beat them with a meat tenderizer. Oh, very nice. Very nice. And then we'll come back and finish our scotcheroos. And I have some fun stuff to talk about about the year that these scotcheroos probably came out. 1940 or 1946. Which year did you go for? Well, it would be in the 60s. 1960 or 1964. I went with Did you go for Do you see what I did with those numbers? I did. Yeah. Okay. Carrie. That's what I do all the time. 1964. You went with 64. Yep. I'm going to set the scene as soon as we come back. So, you've already decided that the Rice Krispie story is 1964. It's the Nestle Story. Story. It was too willy-nilly for me. It said in the 1960s. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Kristen, don't roll like that. No, she does not. No, she doesn't.

Kristen took over the Oh Henry Bar. She pushed me out of the way. Yep. Yep. She said, "Carrie, this requires a real chef." Oh, yeah. Back off. I know, right? So, get over to the stove and do your thing, Carrie. Yeah. Which she has mentioned four times. Don't screw this up. I have. I'm a little bit nervous. Carrie's in charge of cooking the sugar and the Karo syrup. And we know what happened to dad. And I'm afraid she's just gonna repeat that thing. What I love is the trust and faith. Yeah. Yeah. That goes with cooking in these podcasts. And again, I appreciate y'all listening to date. I'm so sorry that there won't be any more in the future. Um but you know, it happens sometimes when you're dealing with your sister. Yeah. Well, I was gonna come on here. Kristen just interrupted me and took over the whole conversation. It's about time. But I was going to come on here and say that I do want to have a disclaimer. I do indeed love Minnesotans. I I love y'all. Everybody has their own special treat. And if somebody in another state called sugar cream pie, I don't know, milky pie, I would I would accept that. Piearoo piearoo. I would be okay with that. You would so not be okay with that. Lies This is the podcast of lies because I was also going to come on here and tell Carrie how much I am very sorry for harassing her continuously. That's a lie. It really is a lie. So, okay, the title of this podcast, for any of you who try to listen and try to figure out where the podcast episode title came from, the episode title comes from the podcast of lies. I think it should be. Yeah, I think it should be okay. Lies. So, I promised to set the scene for you all. 1964 things that were released in 1964 that you may have been eating or playing or whatever. The first one was Pop-Tarts were released in 1964. Really? So you played with Pop-Tarts, huh? You're weird. I said eating or playing with. Another thing that was introduced in 1964 were these little tasty treats called Bugles, Whistles, and Daisies. And the only one that's still left are Bugles. Bugles. Interesting. So was it a box of all three? No. No. All separate treats. The Bugles, we know what they were like. They're all corn flavored treats. Okay. The Whistles were tube shaped snacks made of corn and flavored like grilled cheese on toast. Interesting. And then the daisies were flower-shaped and they were made from corn obviously and were described as having a popover flavor. Weird. So obviously the whistles and daisies did not last, right? But the Bugles are delightful. Oh, they are yummy and crunch. They are great to put on your fingers. They are so fun. Like little witchy fingernails. Yes, ma'am. Okay. My all-time favorite thing came out in 64. Funny face drink mix. Goofy grape freckleface strawberry. Lefty lemon. Choo choo cherry. I have no recollection of this other than your love of it. Oh my gosh. I had the cups. I had all those that I mentioned. Of course, mom got rid of them. And when I became an adult, it became this all consuming thing for me to find them again. And so I did. And I had a goofy grape where the uh paint was kind of chipped off his teeth and stuff. Yes. And so I was in this little antique store and I found one in perfect condition. And I shout to my husband, "Goofy grape in perfect condition. Goofy grape in perfect condition." And then I turned around to try to bargain the price down with the I'm not really interested in this . No, not interested. Could you take $2? Right. Yeah. That did not work well for me. She's like, I know it's marked five, but for you I'll give it for 10. You're like, "Okay, okay, I'll take it. It's perfect condition. I'll give you 12." The cereal Lucky Charms also came out in ' 64. Really? Yeah. Crunchy Marshmallows. Yes. which we've learned have a name. Marbits. I think it is Marbits. Yeah, cuz they're like Marshmallow Bits. Marshmallow Bits. Absolutely. Good memory, Carrie. Thank you. Yes. And then there were some TV shows that we watched in reruns that initially premiered in ' 64. Oh, yeah. Are you ready? No. Okay, I'll wait then. Bewitched. Oh, cuz it was black and white originally. Originally. Yes. You're right. Oh, that lead actress, I can't think of her name. Elizabeth Montgomery. Oh, she was so beautiful. I loved her And she had the cutest little perky nose that she wiggled. Yes. I never got what she saw in either one of the Darrens. Oh, Derwood. Derwood was not nice. Nope. And he was not handsome. And he was a whiny baby. Oh, he was a whiny baby. Uh-huh. And he was trying to keep her down. He really was. Yeah. I did not like him. No, I didn't either. Really jerky. He really was. Yep. Yep. When did color television become popular, Kristen? I do not know because what do you mean you don't know you know all the things. Let's see. The Munsters and the Adams family came out in ' 64 and they were also black and white. They were indeed. So, I'm going to look up when did color television come out. Oh my gosh. People, you are learning the facts at the same time we are. It says mid to late 60s. Well, that's lame. Yeah, but a lot of people didn't own color TV sets, so it didn't really matter. Well, that's true. And maybe it depended on the show cuz it was a slow transition. Yeah, I think so, too. I happened to see something online the other day. Yeah. And it was a news show back in the '60s. Yes. And it had the moment it switched from black and white to color. No way. Yes. And so literally the newscasters, they're giving the news. Yes. They get up, they walk to a new news desk. What? They sit down, and that one was filmed in color. How neat is that? So, the middle of the show, Wow. they moved from black and white to color. How fun. Because I had heard that filming in black and white is very different. That women couldn't wear red lipstick and have it show up correctly on black and white film. They actually had to wear like brown or black lipstick in black and white. I've heard that that like if you saw the outfits in movies of black and white that they would wear like yellow and brown. Yeah. Weird colors. Yes. To show up on the black and white film a little better. So interesting. It is. All right. We're going to pour this liquid on the rice krispies. I'll try not to stir while you're talking. Oh, that's a good idea. Hold on. Okay, I'll be quiet. That's the best idea I've heard all day it really is. I don't want to drip any of this on Carrie's hand. That would burn. Feel like burning. Oh, shoot. It says to add the peanut butter. Crud. How much peanut butter? Um, a cup. Lord, we screwed it up. I screwed it up this time. Okay. Okay. Hopefully this melts right in. And it's no big whoopity. It's stirring in. It's melting. Yeah. Oh, good lord. That was hilarious. That is so funny. This now has become my favorite episode of all times. I'm glad I leaned over to look at the directions. I was like, "Oh no, I think I said a cuss word." She did. I cut it out. She'll be editing that out. I edited that out. She'll probably make it sound like I said the cuss word. Yeah, I will. Oh goodness. All right. Hey, you did great stirring that up. Do you want me to help? It is It hurts your arm, doesn't it? No, I'm laughing because you the platitude. You did great, Carrie. Everything else you've done for the last week and a half has been totally erroneous. You might as well be a Minnesotan. Oh You're mean, I'm going to get in trouble. I'm going to get in trouble. No, really. She did stir that in thoroughly. Kristen and her Minnesota hate. Oh no. Stop it. I don't know who the governor of Minnesota is. I'm sure it's not Jesse Ventura anymore. Oh, we know who it is. He even has a special hot dish recipe. Oh, Tim Walzs. Walzs. Well, Mr. Walzs, feel free to email us. It would be so exciting. We would take your hot dish recipe, Mr. Walzs. We We would We would also take your bootleg special K bar recipe for Kristen to hate on. Okay. So, what we have to do next is we are going to press this into the pan, trying not to burn ourselves. It says you can use a rolling pin to flatten it. I'm like, no thank you. We'll use slightly damp hands. And then we have to melt the chocolate chips and the butterscotch chips together in the micro, which means I need to wash the bowl from the Oh Henry bars. And so, we're going to go bye-bye for a minute. I'm going to scream bloody murder as I put my hands on this hot No kidding. I'm going to make Kristen do that part. It's her penance. It is my penance. Okay, we'll see you guys in a minute. I'll have blisters on my hand, but I deserved it. Yes, she does. Don't feel bad for her.

We have two 9 by13 pans of delicious looking bars. Yeah, Midwesternry at its finest. It is. Okay, I'm going to try to hold on to the flappies and pull them out. It's working perfectly. Oh yeah, I just had to use a little effort. Yeah, there we go. Henry's bars are thin. Yeah, they're much thinner than the Scotcheroo. It'll be fascinating to hear if our Redditor was correct. And we're going to need a hacksaw and a chisel, right? Okay. Shall we cut into this? Oh Henry bar. I think I think we should get a piece of each plate. I agree. So, let's cut. Oh, no. Oh, no. Hacksaw not needed at all. I know right. That looks really nice. We probably didn't cook it long enough. You know, we screwed it up somehow, right? Somehow, but that's all right. Let's get a nice middle piece for us. I was thinking the same thing. All right. So, the scotcheroos are about double the height. They really are. Mhm. And also look delicious. On the Oh Henry bars, the chocolate is as thick as the oat base. It is. Not so much on the scotcheroo. No, it looks really tasty. Okay. I'm excited. All right. So, I get to go first. You do. So, um, with the Oh Henry bars, were you a big Seinfeld fan? Yeah, I like Seinfeld. Okay. So, I didn't watch a whole lot of it. Oh, really? Um, apparently there was an episode on which Elaine encounters, her high school friend turned nemesis. Oh, Sue Ellen Mishki. Sue Ellen. Yes. She is the ais to the Oh, Henry Candy Bar fortune. You're kidding me. No. And apparently Elaine is disgusted that Sue Ellen never wears a bra despite her definite need for one. Oh my. And so Elaine gives Sue Ellen a bra as a birthday gift. And so Sue Ellen wears it just the bra alone beneath an open blazer and stops by Elaine's office to thank her. Uh Peterman sees her and is inspired to create a bra as a top assigning Elaine to write the copy. Oh no. The Oh Henry Bar heiress. Who would have thunk Sue Ellen Mishki? Very nice. All right, take a bite of this. Oh Henry, I'm dying for you to taste it. I was just going to say enough jibber jabber. Yeah, I want to give this sucker a try. Okay, what do you think? It's good. Is it? I don't adore it, but it's good. It's a little messy. Oh, it still is very soft. Mhm. It is. It might as it gets harder be a little nicer. Or maybe we didn't cook the base enough. It's good. Mhm. You know what it reminds me of? No. I'm going to take another bite while you tell us. The no bake cookies in the school cafeteria. Yes, it does. Kind of fancified version. Yeah. In a bar instead of a blob. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Okay. So, I'm moving on to Scotcheroo. And while Carrie tastes the Scotcheroo, the Beatles came to America in 1964 just when this Scotcheroo recipe came out. Do you think they had Scotcheroos? They probably did cuz they thought they were Scottish. The Beatles were so stupid I know. They thought it was that Scottish animal that would hop around. A scotcheroo. The Beatles were stupid. What do you think of that, Carrie? It's just a scotcheroo. It's delicious. It's chewy. It's butterscotchy. It's peanut buttery. The chocolate top is soft. You don't break your tooth getting through this ganache. It's my favorite of the two for sure. Me, too. Wow. It's so good. The Scotcheroos all day, every day. I think the Oh Henry bars are are good. Mhm. Nothing wrong with them. They are a pale comparison to me to the Scotcheroos. I think the Scotcheroo is far better. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I think that's it. That's it, you guys. I mean, Midwest win for the Scotcheroo. Yep. Both tasty. If you are a big- time oats lover and if you have great memories of those no bake cookies from school, like if that was your favorite day of the month, you're going to love those. I like how Kristen is being polite. She spends the entire episode bashing on Minnesotans and then at the end she's like, "Yeah, but it's okay, you stupid Minnesotans. If you really like Oh, stop. You can. I still like it cuz I like you. You know, Minnesotans like the special K, Carrie. Oh, that one's the lame one. Okay, I'm backing out of here quick while we can. Thank you for joining us. Mark your calendars for our next episode. We're rounding out December on the 29th. It's going to be a quick and simple dish. Nothing too difficult or impossible at all. Oh, good. Yeah. We'll see you then.

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